Four to the Floor

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I know what 4 to the floor means, thanks to this forum but....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WpudasPafg

4.44 What is All Young doing ?

I have been trying a lot but in lmms it never sounds like what he is doing ?
I noticed how he is switching one hand, but I cant get my head around on how to do that in LMMS.
I clearly need to leave one hit out, were he switches, but I am lost.

He also states its about the groove, but I seem to fail at getting that groove :(

Allot of disco makes me wanna dance instantly. but when I try it in LMMS, I do not get that feeling.

( off topic not political correct joke, am I to white to make a funky groove ? )

I know LMMS does not have humination function, but we should be able to do this by hand, by moving notes in the piano roll?

House / disco 120 bpm. :)

For my attempt at a house track I am now at 122 bpm, so at least that part is about right.

House the revenge of disco :P
Gps wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:08 pm
4.44 What is All Young doing ?
a lot and doing well :P
Nah you ned to narrow it in
He has two sounds onbeat -I would say he hits the bass-drum in a shift-pattern
hard| soft| hard| soft....
but he adds a snare on every second .. must be all softs
Then he plays the hat in that way we have talked once.
Remember i told you that a drummer had explained the 'elastic' hit on a hat?
It dont go tzi tzi tzi
but tzi-tz tzi-tz tzi-tz -a double touch simply from the spring of the sticks
In lmms we would add a dampened 'after-hit' on the 2. tick
... on your pc, do you have a project named brodance i believe i send you something with that double hat-hit(?)
he is switching one hand
Not sure that is anything but 'showoff'
( off topic not political correct joke, am I to white to make a funky groove ? )
looooo..l
I know LMMS does not have humination function
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ye and ney.. There is not a auto-method, but as you say it is feasible as manual fidling
House the revenge of disco :P
Disco was getting parodic stale and flashy not for sound, but for show. EDM took a harder approach and added electronica sounds. EDM is not as mold-formed as disco was -Will it be? Njea.. EDM has just 'more' than one direction (no pun..) Remember -its your own picture afair :p
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Thank you, now I know what to try next first. That elastic hit. :)

And I do remember us talking about it before.

Its a big frustration for me, but I usual learn allot when I get frustrated, but refuse to give up. :)


Was watching a few documentaries, about disco and the start of edm.
I was quite young when that happened, and never understood it.
Now because of the documentaries, I am starting to see why.

Some racism was involved, allot of drugs and allot of gays. That did no go well with allot more conservative people.
I also think that like with all music that gets popular, it get commercial to a point, it all sounds the same.

I do remember some people telling me I should not like certain records any-more because it was disco.
I always liked certain disco, and never let people stop me liking it.

Silver Convention - Fly Robin Fly. :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPdG4DA42g

And for the younger readers, about the flashy part musikbear mentioned:

Divine - Shoot you shot ( and yes that's a guy in a red dress )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FphTXSEv5ZI

Or in a blue dress.
Divine - you think you're a man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TXoGjYO7TY

All we need to score a hit, 4 to the floor and a synthesizer. ;)

Sue me for liking it, I don't care. :P
Wait a minute. :P
Didn't you guys have a similar conversation like this before? :mrgreen:
Yes we had :)

But it was the elastic part, I did not remember any more.

Been trying a bit, and it damn hard to get it right. ( sound like All Young )

But it did already give me something for my house track. You need to open the piano roll in the bbe because I don't think you can do this just in the bbe.
Gps wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:08 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WpudasPafg
This is definitely an awesome reference for any electronic music producer. I was completely unaware of the origins of the house genre, even if I knew it had something related with the Roland 808 drum machine...
I watched the whole thing with a great smile on my face, by acknowledging the satisfaction every single one of these men for influencing our whole generation and probably making their dream come true in the way, while in such a wicked environment.
It's awesome to think that a few clubs started a movement that slowly "infected" the world.
I don't see a lot of producers today having the amount of influence these guys had.
I guess nowadays it's easier to influence other producers to create similar sounds, (like did Tiesto, Deadmau5 or even Skrillex) than making people change their dance to match your songs.
And we all know that most "hit" songs are connected to some new type of dance. (remember LMFAO or Psy)
Canilho wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:09 pm
I watched the whole thing with a great smile on my face,
FYI: there are 2 more hours in this documentary(!)
Canilho wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:09 pm
This is definitely an awesome reference for any electronic music producer. I was completely unaware of the origins of the house genre, even if I knew it had something related with the Roland 808 drum machine...
I watched the whole thing with a great smile on my face, by acknowledging the satisfaction every single one of these men for influencing our whole generation and probably making their dream come true in the way, while in such a wicked environment.
It's awesome to think that a few clubs started a movement that slowly "infected" the world.
I don't see a lot of producers today having the amount of influence these guys had.
I guess nowadays it's easier to influence other producers to create similar sounds, (like did Tiesto, Deadmau5 or even Skrillex) than making people change their dance to match your songs.
And we all know that most "hit" songs are connected to some new type of dance. (remember LMFAO or Psy)
It made me smile too. :)

For one reason, I remember when being quite young, disco suddenly getting out of fashion.

Years later house became popular, and these days we have Daft Punk.

I did not know Daft Punk, but hearing them on the radio, I was hey this sounds familiar. I did not even realise it was disco.

I started googling though, and found Nile Rodgers had worked with them.

Daft Punk - Lose Yourself to Dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF-kLy44Hls

The guy with the dreads is Nile Rogers.

The bass player of Chic, which also gave us, involuntary, the first rap hit. ( rappers delight )

This is the type of disco I always liked most, the funk disco, so we could call it black music, or it has at least black roots.

I consider myself a fan of Nile Rodgers.
He also wrote Spacer, which chic did not want to do.

Spacer-Sheila E and her black devotion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoEFv1GpPU4

And then Alcazar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CiOWcUVGJM

I like to think disco won. :P
Gps wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:41 pm
I like to think disco won. :P
In a sense, it might have won. Because disco music will always, unexpectedly appear in modern music. Like how it always shows up in Daft Punks music, or in remixes of old tunes. The only way disco could re-appear on the music charts, is if people who grew up from that 70's era, make new disco styled music. And luckily for them, we have DAW's. 8-)