question about mastering

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hi!
I wish to understand an idea of using limiters/compressers when mastering.
All i know they're allow to avoid clipping. But i can achieve this by reducing volumes of clipping instruments.
So what advantages do I have when using limiter/compressor?

Thanks.
gues you could say that using limiters/compressers is yet an aditional way to get rid of artifacts.. sometimes mixer-bus seperation isent suficient and then you have these other 'tools'.
Take a look at these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mxf3DcQTg
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Wy7CBhhow
perhaps even
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA55hC4v6WA
if ordinary mixer use also interest you :)
The 2 first videos achieve clipping minimizing where it otherwise would be a problem- However, These methods also 'blane' the instruments somewhat.. Its the 'sharp-edges' that causes the problems, these are 'sanded', but sometimes its just these edges that really give an instrument its 'money-bang' :)
So..Give and take / earn and loose
BR
At this time i can't watch stream video (such as youtube) because of expencive trafic. I will do later.
Nonetheless thanksfor advice.
Hi.

I will try to explain (with my bad english :D) some of the basics.

Let's say you've got a signal from a VCA (Voltage Controlled Amplifier). This could be from a syntheshizer.
This signal has it's charcter, bass, middle, high tones, volume ...
You can change the volume of the signal ... but it's just the maximum / minimum volume of the whole signal.
This can you do with an amplifier.

When you've got more than one 'hard' signal, maybe a bassdrum an a bassline it could happend, that both peaks of the sounds are 'too much'. So it's too loud, you can't clearly listen to other sounds, sounds distorted, crushed ....

To fight against this you're able to use a limiter, compressor, peak controller .. maybe in a kind of side chaining.

Limiter:
A limiter is a circuit that allows signals below a specified input power to pass unaffected while attenuating the peaks of stronger signals that exceed this input power.
Features of a limiter could be:
Ratio, Attack and release, input / output-volume

Compressor:
Dynamic range compression, also called DRC (often seen in DVD and car CD player settings) or simply compression, is a process that reduces the dynamic range of an audio signal, that is, narrows the difference between high and low audio levels or volumes.
Features of an compressor could be:
Threshold, Ratio, Attack and release, Soft and hard knees, Peak vs RMS sensing, Stereo Linking, Makeup gain, Look-ahead

Peak Controller:
'Grabs' the peak of a signal for using on other VCA. For Example you can use the peak of a bassdrum for changing the volume of the bassynth. You can use this trick for 'ducking' or 'pumping' the sound.

Useful links in Wikipedia (some stuff i've copied into this tread)
Compressor:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_range_compression
Limiter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limiter
VCA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable-gain_amplifier

hth
E.SoX
lowbudget thank you for a post :)
Now I've understand a difference between limiter and compressor.

Additionally I was impressed by this:
Compression can also be used on instrument sounds to create effects not primarily focused on boosting loudness. For instance, drum and cymbal sounds tend to decay quickly, but a compressor can make the sound appear to have a more sustained tail. Guitar sounds are often compressed in order to obtain a fuller, more sustained sound.
I was confused by such thinks like Attack and release, soft and hard knees but now it's ok.

PS: I guess the majority of lmms's users are not English-speaking ;)
I am using "Jamin" for mastering and connected with "Jack" and "Ardour" for make record wav file :mrgreen:
Here it is kittyniau. :mrgreen:

Hope this helps you.

I'm new to Mastering technique too.

Good luck with your song. Hope you can put it up so I can here your song and voice. Enjoy. :D

Bye. :D