Obvious SPAM messages left on forum?! This is why:

[musikbear]

Firstly thank you to all of you who flags the spam and advertising posted by bots! That help us a lot!
You may wonder why the posts are not removed immediately, but there is a reason.
We have connected to a 'watchdog-service', that collects traffic from spambots, and block them at a high level. It is important for that process, that most of the spam-information is preserved.
Earlier all spammers IP was immediately banned, and the spam-messages deleted, but that also deletes the 'trace' of the attack.
The way we do this now, allows for reconstruction of the spammers activity, and therefore it can be blocked more efficient.
So all your reports are taken serious, and all spammers are being vigorously dealt with!
Thank you again for reporting Illegal content, Spam and Advertising!

[zonkmachine]

I don't get this post. There is probably less spam on the forum now. Personally I log in here about three times a day and remove the latest spam and I'm not the only one removing spam here. All you need to know is that if you see spam you press the report button. That's all.

[musikbear]

I don't get this post. There is probably less spam on the forum now. Personally I log in here about three times a day and remove the latest spam and I'm not the only one removing spam here. All you need to know is that if you see spam you press the report button. That's all.

Its because i now send those that appears over to you, so they can be registered on the anti-spam service you told me you now use. Before that everything including the poster was deleted, without a trace, so it was much more obvious for the user that made the report, that we reacted and appreciated the reports. I Now only make the links useless, and reports the IP/ name and content, so history of the spam-attack can be preserved, but that is not so obvious an action, as seeing everything deleted.
Thats all
You are correct! Mass-spamming-attacks has not occurred in this month at all :+1

[zonkmachine]

Its because i now send those that appears over to you, so they can be registered on the anti-spam service you told me you now use.

We register spammers to https://www.stopforumspam.com

Before that everything including the poster was deleted, without a trace, so it was much more obvious for the user that made the report, that we reacted and appreciated the reports.

I still don't get this. When I remove a spammer I remove all the posts. It's easier to remove spammers if I can see the whole story. The forum moderators here all has different methods to deal with spam. Methods including:

- Messaging them to tell them to stop spamming (Spammers are not persons, they are mostly scripts generating automatic content so this doesn't work. Obviously)
- Editing spam posts to remove the links (Spammers, being scripts, knows how to re-edit edited posts and adds the links back later. Or it doesn't add new links but the spammers 1-3 pointless posts remains there as shit-posts and the script has moved on to use new emails/usernames. totally pointless )
- Asking kindly, in the topic, that the spammer removes the links (spammer doesn't remove the link and I find the post months llater and now need to edit out posts from other users first before removing the spammer)
- Vandalising the spam (sometimes makes it not obvious that there was spam there in the first place)

All these and more methods just makes administrating spam more difficult and erratic. Instead of the methods above just use the ordinary spam report button. It works. We see those reports and they are almost always correct.

I Now only make the links useless,

Ah, vandalizing the spam. It's totally inefficient and just annoying. People understand what spam is already and don't really click the links. What you really do is signalling to the readers brain that there is something to read there and you've just grabbed their attention to the spam some more while making me confused. Please don't.

Mass-spamming-attacks has not occurred in this month at all :+1

It may have slowed down a bit but I think we have a flood spam attack maybe two times per week or so.

This shouldn't be in news so I'm moving this topic somewhere else. People shouldn't have to see this in the first place. I think to most users this whole topic is spam too.

[vortexsupernova]

Ah, vandalizing the spam. It's totally inefficient and just annoying. People understand what spam is already and don't really click the links. What you really do is signalling to the readers brain that there is something to read there and you've just grabbed their attention to the spam some more while making me confused. Please don't.

I agree that It would be better to yeet that spam reply into oblivion since it also messes up the conversation of original topic.

Mass-spamming-attacks has not occurred in this month at all :+1

It may have slowed down a bit but I think we have a flood spam attack maybe two times per week or so.

A few times a week I'm logging in here just to report spam posts that dig up old posts. Sometimes I'm seeing the mass Korean casino spam. They are not gone; they are still revisiting but the rate seems to be a little bit slower now.

I, of course, know nothing about webmasters' scripts and creating antispam plugins but I kinda have stupid idea for this specific type of bot (the korean one) : if the post and its title consist of only Korean characters and follows links in several rows, the post will be "shadowbanned". The post can only be seen by the user spammer itself and the mods. Therefore, the bot will be tricked that its posts are seen by everyone. The mass spam posts "will" show on the music projects for example, but only the bot itself and the mods will see them, no other users will. The posts will automatically be deleted after x hours or minutes.
However I dont think this is possible at all

I was thinking that banning IP can be sometimes ineffective since some spammers may have masked their real IP; if their masked IP is banned then they may change to another.
Also regarding a mod's private message where they sent me the details: the IP of the banned user seems to be belonging on an IP address frequently used by spam attackers. It was served on Netherlands but I don't bother searching for it again. It was reported spamming even in Wordpress sites. Do you guys ban IP's known for spam breach?

I was on an art site called DeviantArt where it's possible to see 1848538929 types of bots. on which one of them have the ability to hack old inactive accounts.
Usually, large percentage of these bots are "sexbots" (false advertising dating sites or camsites), the small portion are spamming essays/assignments which are also present here, the other are products and services from India (not being racist but they're usually from that place sadly, based from the addresses they post, like "Kolkata" or "New Delhi".)

For everyone:
To know whether one is a bot or human: Spammers/bots do not put the link immediately so they couldnt be noticed. Before they add a bogus link, notice their first post. Are they supposed to post like this for the first time? Another thing, but this is more noticeable in other sites: their credentials or stats are conflicting which may indicate non-human/bot activity, for example, in Deviantart an inactive account active 10 years ago which has a poorly Romanized Russian text on its profile next to a wierd link suddenly starts liking posts from yesterday.

p.s. ngl zonky has no chill hahaha:
"People shouldn't have to see this in the first place. I think to most users this whole topic is spam too"