pop corn troubles

[gps2013]

Hi guys.

I am trying to make a popcorn song.

I currently have 4 tracks.
A vst, a tambourine, a default preset and a flute.

vst plays the lead.

The default pre set plays the rhythm.

The tambourine, plays the tick tick tick tick ( like a metronome )

Tambourine and vst together sound right.
Tambourine and default preset, sound right.

Playing them all together does not sound right to me.
Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

It sounds out of sync but both lead and bassline start at 1.

I do not get how it can be ( or sound )out of sync ?

https://soundcloud.com/user586365033/popcorn1

[zonkmachine]

Error one. The melody line should start on count four on the bar before it does now.

[gps2013]

Error one. The melody line should start on count four on the bar before it does now.

Thank you, it proofs I heard it right, there is some things wrong.

I have tried moving the melody, but I cant get it right. ( It does get a bit better, but not 100% )

I think I am gonna redo the rhythm part.

I used the below vid, but either I have not copied it right, or I should look for a different example.
Maybe first start with a more simple rhythm, and when I have it in sync change it.
Not happy about the lead either, but I first want things in sync.

Maybe I am gonna look for sheet music, but I am not sure if I can read that.
Its been a while I had this at school. I do remember some parts. To bad I was not interested in this stuff back now, I wish I had paid more attention.
While typing this reply I start to wonder. The basics of music. The lead should have the same number of notes or at least something with a factor 4, compared to the bassline.
I am starting to think I already messed up on that part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmTpM9ruztU

[gps2013]

This should help:
You can mute the different tracks and slow it down.

https://www.jellynote.com/en/sheet-musi ... %23score_E

[zonkmachine]

It also sounds like the melody is off key but it's hard to hear/think when it's off the beat.

[gps2013]

It also sounds like the melody is off key but it's hard to hear/think when it's off the beat.

You are right, I found the problem.

I used 13 notes in the rhythm.


I am not sure if using 13 notes is always wrong, but in this case it is.

The lead now has a different beat as the baseline, and that is what we are hearing.

It came to me, when I watched the vid made with synthesia.

I noticed the lead always starts at one of the beat notes, as it should be. But this is not the case in my song. Then I realised I was using 13 notes (out of 16 places).

[gps2013]

Changed the beat to a simple up down up down, in every spot.
Them moved the melody around.

The sound does not make me happy, but at least its in sync, so making progress.

[gps2013]

I am redoing the beat once again.

I have now the lead and the simple tick tick tick in sync. ( in sync with the site jellynote )

That site is really help full. ( https://www.jellynote.com/en/sheet-musi ... %23score_E )

I am listening at 40 bpm and then you can hear what is played and when. ( because you can also mute individual tracks )

Now back to the beat.
Because I now have the lead running at same speed as the site, I "only" need to get the beat in sync.

It surprises me ones again, that is it far harder to copy something, then to make your own song.

I am learning allot about lmms too, how to mess with a wave, ( delay hold, decay sustain, attack, release )
And how some of the preset sounds have apreggio, which you can turn off.

Synthesizers are more complicated then I thought.
I am also starting to understand the names of the type of sounds. saw, pluck string and so on.

I also noticed that I had messed up the lead. ( notes being a fraction too long )

And that site also confirmed something else, what was bothering me.
The tones I use for the lead are close but not right.

I am starting to love lmms more and more.
It does not have a steep learning curve, but it will take some time, before you can use (understand) all features.

And then their is the music part. For now my ears are much better then my musical skills.
Making progress their too. ( how to play a certain part on a keyboard )

This is not the first time I use lmms though.

[gps2013]

Making progress. The middle piece is clearly not on the beat.
And I need to add more drums.

First I was only paying attention, if my song was in sync with the original, then I realised its more important the individual tracks are in sync.
I still have to take a look at the main beat too though.

https://soundcloud.com/user586365033/popcorn2

[gps2013]

Was I deaf when I uploaded this ?

The main rhyme sounds awful. Still making progress, I hope to have some to show soon.