First new LMMS track in a while

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With the newest (I think) update to LMMS, my workflow got kinda broken and I had to take a while to adjust. Also to pull my head out of the funk that a broken workflow can create. But! I'm done whining now, and I'm starting to get back at it! I feel pretty good about this track, even if it is a little goofy and shares the same kind of structure that a lot of my songs tend to lean towards... but it was fun to make so I'm counting this as a win. Any thoughts?

https://soundcloud.com/spugintrntl/escalator

P.S. I keep realizing after I've exported/uploaded these to soundcloud that I never did anything with the panning. How much do you think that matters? For the most part I'm ambivalent, because the music tends to sound fine to me regardless of how far left or right the instruments are balanced... like it can give the music a neat extra dimension, but how important is it really?
Foggy wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:07 pm
https://soundcloud.com/spugintrntl/escalator
Glad to hear you again!

Nice track, I took the escalator to climb to seventh heaven.

Regarding panning, stereo broadcasting simply offers an extra dimension to mono broadcasting. You can exploit it or not. Basically, this does not change the quality of your composition, but it brings something extra. When you have many instruments, if you arrange them in the stereo space, it can also help to better distinguish the instruments from each other.

For example, in New Seeds of BoC, it allows to separate the different tracks of guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PUbivcuxk In mono, or if everything is centered without stereo width, you lose something.

It is true that your track could benefit from a work on the stereo space.
D.Ipsum wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:13 am
Foggy wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:07 pm
https://soundcloud.com/spugintrntl/escalator
Glad to hear you again!

Nice track, I took the escalator to climb to seventh heaven.

Regarding panning, stereo broadcasting simply offers an extra dimension to mono broadcasting. You can exploit it or not. Basically, this does not change the quality of your composition, but it brings something extra. When you have many instruments, if you arrange them in the stereo space, it can also help to better distinguish the instruments from each other.

For example, in New Seeds of BoC, it allows to separate the different tracks of guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PUbivcuxk In mono, or if everything is centered without stereo width, you lose something.

It is true that your track could benefit from a work on the stereo space.
Thanks for the kind words, glad you liked the track!

That's sort of what I thought about panning... I've used it before on other songs but sometimes it feels like it doesn't make much difference. I've made so many where I got so excited about being "done" with them that I completely forgot to pay attention to panning and didn't even notice till I'd had them uploaded to soundcloud. Yet, nobody seemed to notice. I think you're right, though, this one could benefit from some extra dimension.

Also thanks for the link to BoC... I absolutely love that whole album!
Foggy wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:00 am
I've made so many where I got so excited about being "done" with them that I completely forgot to pay attention to panning and didn't even notice till I'd had them uploaded to soundcloud. Yet, nobody seemed to notice.
I do not know if nobody seemed to notice it. I believe that as an auditor, it is difficult to hear what is not but which could be (for the better).

Regarding stereophony, it is not reduced to just panning (difference in amplitude between the left and right channels). I think we can consider every possible way to introduce a difference between the left and right channels. We can play on the amplitude, the frequency, the phase, the delay and the different ways of combining these elements.

The C * Narrower with strength = 1 cancels any difference between left and right channels.

If you place a C * Narrower with strength = 1 on your Master Channel, and play with its On / Off led, it allows you to realize how much the content of your left channel is different from the content of your channel law. This can be a basis for thinking about the stereophony of your track.

Similarly, the use of a goniometer can also give you an overview of the stereo of your track. I use the EasySSP: https://au.tomatl.org/ It contains a goniometer (left screen) and a spectrogram (right screen).
Dude, I like the whole cool swirly sound style and flow of this. :D


Foggy wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:07 pm
P.S. I keep realizing after I've exported/uploaded these to soundcloud that I never did anything with the panning. How much do you think that matters? For the most part I'm ambivalent, because the music tends to sound fine to me regardless of how far left or right the instruments are balanced... like it can give the music a neat extra dimension, but how important is it really?
Don't let the panning ability, bother you too much. :)
Use panning, if you feel to use it. And whenever you think, it'll fit well in the song.

Panning sometimes sound really good, when used as an effect. :D
Like for eg. a magical shimmering effect, moving back and forth, from speaker to speaker.
brandystarbrite wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:19 am
Panning sometimes sound really good, when used as an effect. :D
Like for eg. a magical shimmering effect, moving back and forth, from speaker to speaker.
I've heard it can also help separate similar-sounding instruments too, which stands to reason. I think that might help this track, but I've always had a little trouble using it like that effectively. Maybe I just need more practice :/