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Have you tried commercial VSTi of drums?
I have never tried, but some are very popular.

Gps wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:53 pm

It's funny to me, you and musicbear don't mention the drums.

The drums are the part I am most unhappy with. The drums don't give a ska feeling, and I no idea on why yet.

Oh crappy. Sorry about that.
I guess I somehow, strangely forgot to mention that, in my post.

But yeah, you might have to search for some drum sounds/sound fonts, that have the
Ska sound and feel, that you're looking for.

I think I'll check out those links you gave us and some Ska songs, and try to see if I could
make a Ska drum sound, or replicate them somehow.

Gps wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:01 pm

https://soundcloud.com/user586365033/a-bit-of-reggae

Heeeeey! This sounds really good.

D.Ipsum wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:45 am

Have you tried commercial VSTi of drums?
I have never tried, but some are very popular.

Maybe I should give some a try, but my problem is prob more about me not really knowing what I am doing percussion wise, and not so much the tools.

Never give up never surrender, when I started I did not know what scales and chords are.

brandystarbrite wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:21 am

Gps wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:53 pm

It's funny to me, you and musicbear don't mention the drums.

The drums are the part I am most unhappy with. The drums don't give a ska feeling, and I no idea on why yet.

Oh crappy. Sorry about that.
I guess I somehow, strangely forgot to mention that, in my post.

But yeah, you might have to search for some drum sounds/sound fonts, that have the
Ska sound and feel, that you're looking for.

I think I'll check out those links you gave us and some Ska songs, and try to see if I could
make a Ska drum sound, or replicate them somehow.

I have been trying to see what the drummer of madness is doing, during live performance.
To me, and my ears it seems the snares are more important then the kicks compared to edm, and most popmusic.
As far as I can tell he is not doing something special rythym wise.

So its prob more about mixing, and as far as I remember the reggae track I made, I was using mostly the standard drum samples from lmms.

Its also why I have been watching the start of One step beyond a few times.
They do the track only with their voices.

And although I am not totally happy with my melody yet, I think I have ska figured out melody wise.
I prob want to make a track like madness and the gangsters and not so much the original ska.

Its all about were you pause, and the rhythm of you're hands alternating.
So if you play a note left hand, then right one or left twice right ones, and so on.

The alternating and the pause make it ska.

Gps wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:33 pm

D.Ipsum wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:45 am

Have you tried commercial VSTi of drums?
I have never tried, but some are very popular.

Maybe I should give some a try, but my problem is prob more about me not really knowing what I am doing percussion wise, and not so much the tools.

Never give up never surrender, when I started I did not know what scales and chords are.

Here I speculate, but I believe commercial VSTi offer complete battery sets. The sound banks would be homogeneous, coherent, thought out so that each element would work well with others. I believe that these VSTi allow users to focus on partition writing, without too much tweaking the sounds.

Just speculation.

I can give them a try.

I just compiled rc3 myself, and for now I am happy.

It has wine so I can load vestige ( I cant do this with the official opensuse version , long story )
And zynaddsubfx is working, that was a problem with rc2.

So I now have a fully functional lmms again,

Do you listen to Mo Stitchi's track?

https://lmms.io/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26133

I think it's part of your interests right now.

I just did and this is interesting.

There is some kick / bassdrum, but compared to hip hop and most edm, its almost non existing.

So the kick is not the most dominant percussion, that's prob one thing were I went wrong.

This track also reminds me of something else. Not playing the one of one two three four.

Definitely need to try that on my ska attempt.

Made progress on the melody, by using notes of different lengths, and not having the same spacing between all notes.
This already gives it more of a ska feel.

Noticed some interesting, while watching a synthesia vid, of one step beyond.

Watch the yellow notes coming in at 0.14 seconds.

I am for days struggling, to get a nice melody, but the problem is, if I use the standard up down up down pattern, I am rather limited on making a melody.

In one step beyond the yellow notes do not play the melody, their 2 or 3 chords, follow the melody though.

They are used as a rhythm instrument, hitting on every off beat.

That not what I was attempting in LMMS.

Another vid I saw yesterday also helped.

If you listen to the yellow notes in the first vid, you hear something interesting.
The guy in the next vid calls it sliding, I do have some ideas, but am not sure yet on how to do this yet in lmms.
Just shorter and longer notes is prob not gonna do it.
I prob need to mess with the note velocities, and maybe even the envolope,
6 min 40 slide the notes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mxPcW6Z03A

Any other ideas on how to slide in lmms ?