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slipstick wrote:I wouldn't worry too much about inversions. The basic C major chord is CEG with the C as the lowest note. But so long as you play the same 3 note names, a C, an E and a G it will always be a C major chord.

The traditional descriptions are for First inversion you move the C above the E and G to get EGC, Second inversion you move the E up above the C to get GCE.

But even if you play the original C and E with a G below them it will still be C major. Those 3 note names anywhere on the keyboard played together make a C major chord (as a guitarist I used that idea all the time...it doesn't matter where you play the 3 notes, you still end up with the same chord).

Steve

Thank you, this answers all my issues, especially about moving the notes down. I was already wondering about this.

musikbear wrote:

But so long as you play the same 3 note names, a C, an E and a G it will always be a C major chord.

Exactly!
Listen and go with the best! Dont think a minute on the theoretical stuff 1. 2. blah
If it sounds good, it is good.

Yeah, I have already noticed my musical hearing has become good enough, that even if I don't use the scale tool, my ears will tell me, NO don't put that note or notes there ! ( sometimes even when its in the scale)

Now back to lmms, were I am attempting to get something nice, which uses, Major ( the tonic ), minor, minor, Mayor, Mayor, minor, diminished.

The recipe for a hit.

Some thoughts I like to share with you guys.

Most I know about music theory I learned from you guys here on this boards.

But the thing that keeps surprising me, when I try to create a melody on my midi controller ( keystation mini 32) I do allot of thing right, just by ear, or what ever.

All this talk about tonic etc, goes automatically right, and I cant hardly play anything, nor do I have a clue when jamming? on the midi controller in what scale I am in.
Music is weird

As several people have already said it's what it SOUNDS like that really counts. Knowing all the weird rules just means you can avoid some mistakes you might otherwise make....and you have a way of talking about what you're doing. It's a lot easier to say "It's in A major" than "I'm playing mainly the white notes but instead of F I play the black one above it and the black one above the C as well and....." or to say "Chord is A7" rather than "Play an A, a C sharp, an E and G, all together".

But it's worth remembering that most advances in music have come about by people breaking the existing rules. Once you've done that a few times and it sounds good...they invent a new rule that says it's o.k. to do it .

Steve

One can almost never have to much feedback, so I have been posting on the Linux musicians forum too.

I asked about the sound quality of my creations. It seems I am 80% there, according to that forum. ( my latest creation asend )
To my big surprise they asked, if I used a headphone to mix my songs.
I do, but how the hell can this guy hear that ? lol

It seems I need near-field monitors.

After I googled, I learned that these are speakers, which do not color the sound, and the near filed has to do with the distance form the speaker where they sound good. Near field is less then 2 meter.

Now I only need a job. ( right now I can't afford any speakers)

Do my lmms friend on this forum agree to this advice ?

Or could a better headphone work too ?

I did find these: (I would two of those, the price listed is for only one)
http://www.bax-shop.nl/studio-monitor/k ... oCKJXw_wcB

My current headset is an sennhieser pc 160. (80 euros)

I don't have near-field monitors either, so I can't really give you recommendations on those. In case you want to stick to mixing on headphones, what you should look for are those with a flat frequency response with little or no coloring. The PC 160 is a gaming headset, which dramatically boosts the lower frequencies and is therefore not suitable for accurate mixing.

For the purpose of mixing on (cheap) headphones, I would recommended these:
http://www.bax-shop.nl/studio-hoofdtele ... fdtelefoon
http://www.bax-shop.nl/studio-hoofdtele ... fdtelefoon

I use my surround sound speakers, during mixing. I just turn off the equalizer, and I get a accurate sound.

Well, if you don't have money for monitors atm, any Hi-Fi speakers can do. (The KRK Rockits are a standard choice, and would serve you well).

But having well trained ears is much more important than having studio monitors. If you listen to music all the time on your speakers, and check your mixes regularly with headphones and some other speakers (car ones maybe), your ears will adapt to the sound of the speakers.

As far as your songs go, you should look into mixing and mastering them better, also 'asend' has a lack of sub that I, as a basshead, don't really like, and I think it would sound a lot better with a sub.

Hope this helps

Thank you guys, this is really helping me.

And about the lag of bass, I do blame my headset for that. Although I am happy with it for daily use, I love the sennheiser sound, I do know it does color the sound. Which is great when listening to mp3, and gaming but not for mixing.

And this also reminds me of somebody on these forums, who told me to get a neutral(not coloring) headphone.

Eino wrote:I use my surround sound speakers, during mixing. I just turn off the equalizer, and I get a accurate sound.

That seems to work, because you’re creations, sound more clear then mine.