Vu meter on fx mixer in the red, bad ?

[Gps]

After watching a vid on you tube, I am more optimistic both plugins will work on linux too.
I will report if I got it working. I also found the manual. No real problem, just something new to learn.

Worst case scenario could be, mixing the track on windows, or looking for a tool that does work on Linux too.

I downloaded the exe files, run them through wine ( a windows emulator) and then got .dll files.
Why they use an exe file is beyond me , but I did get the vst2 version, and the 32 bit one.

You guys lost me on cutting frequencies and raising the gain, but I will look around, to find were and how to do this.
Or is this just about using an equalizer ?

First time I used the bassbooster, I over did it, and after this I already am using the wet level knob more and more, and turning down the gain.

With that booster its very easy to over do it.

[musikbear]

You guys lost me on cutting frequencies and raising the gain, but I will look around, to find were and how to do this.
Or is this just about using an equalizer ?

yes, frequencies can be manipulated with an EQ. You can do nicely with the ladspa ones, but you can also choose to use one of the graphical vst-EQ
Nyquist or easyQ recommended. The latter is most versatile, but perhaps also a little complicated.

[Gps]

I think, I am starting to see the light.

From the first time I read about cutting frequencies, I was wondering why the hell would I wanna do that ?
( besides the fact, of not knowing how) and why would I want to use a spectrum analyzer?

But now the word equaliser comes along, and I think I get it.

I hope I make sense, when I say, I can cut off certain frequencies on certain instruments, so they wont suppress too much other instruments.
Of course not cut off as in removing a frequency, but blending them, and that's were the spectrum analyzers comes in.


I have not yet, tried the analyzers again, but continued on the song.


All because of me lowering again, the volume, on all other tracks. And the instruments in the beat and bassline editor.
I can again hear one track that got lost in the mess of sound.
Bassbooster, I have again increased the wet level. Its now hard to hear if it off or on. I might remove it all together.

We can argue prob a long time, if there was clipping, But now I even have the choir track hardly in the red.
The fall off stripes in the vu meter are sometimes red, later in the song. I can live with that.

So now lets see what I can improve with cut off, of certain frequencies on some of the instruments.

[Gps]

I forgot to mention, I also turned down the volume on synth 1, and then turned it up in lmms ( Fx mixer) for the one track that goes on almost through out the whole "song".

Hard to say if this preset, is mend to have some distortion, but I turned it down to 30% or something on synth1, and the distortion seems gone or is at least a lot less.

I am also gonna experiment with side chaining.
Then try to find a solution, to the spectrum analyzers. Both seems to have the same problem.
What confuses me, everything seems to respond fine, all menus and all knobs, but I don't see any graph when I start my song in lmms.

I did manage, but don't ask me how, to draw in a curve for comparison, in the window.
It's enough to not give up yet totally, but both sites were I downloaded the plug ins from, state the plugins are windows and mac only.

We all know not all windows vst will work on Linux (wine), and google was not very use full.
Its always funny to see, the installer not noticing, there is no real windows.

[Gps]

Still no luck with those two windows vst, or finding some other yet.
From two you tube vids, of people using the plugins, I can only asume, its symple not working 100% on linux.
The only other thing I could find, was that one of them seems to work in adour, with wine.

So I have only by ears for now, but made great progress.
Besides a lot of tweaking the volumes of the tracks ( and using automation), using an equalizer on some instruments, the big step forward was dropping an equalizer on the master channel.

That were those choir parts were hiding. Turning up the volume did help but, this works far better ! Turning three of four knobs for the highest frequency a bit up, and bam, there is the choir part, suddenly clear, not muffled.

This had nothing to do with what I was assuming, the choir part getting over shouted by other tracks.

Some thing I might have seen with an spectrum analyzer.

[musikbear]

Still no luck with those two windows vst, or finding some other yet.

you mean neither BC-spectrum analyze, or the one Stakeout Punch suggested (found it, and its a beauty! even though BC has more 'features')
Thats too bad, but then theres the one shipped with lmms
http://snag.gy/EDMA3.jpg
-its limited compared to the former, but it will help you

Cant a linux user help here: What spectrum analyzer works in linux ??

[Gps]

Both VST seem to have on linux the same issue. There is no graph drawn.
Both seem to load fine, but nothing happens when I click play in lmms.

I had found the one that comes with lmms its something.

[Gps]

Why I have not given up totally on those plugins:

http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10818

I compiled ardour on the KXStudio based on Ubuntu 12.04 using the system -dev packages as described here. Here is a list of my results.

OK

Blue Cat: Gain, Analyser, Freqanalyst, Triple Eq, Flanger Chorus

So somebody got it working on ubuntu in ardour.

[StakeoutPunch]

Do remember that LMMS's mixer readouts are not accurate. The colors (green,yellow, orange, red) are from a png file supplied by the theme. Red doesn't always mean bad with the LMMS mixer, because red starts showing up before 0dB. It's one of the biggest reasons I quit using LMMS, it isn't exact or accurate enough for my tastes.

[Gps]

I do not know how lmms is coded, the fact the color is loaded from a .png file does not say much.
There are no real lights on our desktops.
The coding which decides to what picture to load is important.

I am not sure its not accurate. It seems good enough for me.

The one on the master channel seems rather spot on to me.
It always depends on the sound but red means general distortion.

I have not found a reason to stop using lmms yet.

For now the only advantage I see for some other non free daw, are the presets.
If I find a reason why a song, made with cubase or ableton will sound better then lmms at my pc, I might be willing to switch, but for now my skills are the limiting factor. And midi out is already in the pipeline for lmms.

Back to the spectrum analyzer. I have a few features requests, first one would be the possibility to scale that window, but besides it not looking as cool as the one from deep blue, it does work,
And because you can load one on every instrument. you can compare different tracks.

Would it not be awesome if we could scale that window, zoom in and out, and load different tracks into it, displayed in different color, instead of going the fx tab way.
And a black blue skin.

When I compared a few tracks I noticed a few things.
Many of my instruments, use the same part of the spectrum. Seeing this helps. Its not, I had not noticed this by listening already, but still.

From the tracks I compared, I also learned, that the main dang dang dang, has a very wide sound, and is not as much, as I per-sieved it, a high tone.