Trance trouble

[brandystarbrite]

Slowly it seems to turn into trance,

Not really happy yet, but enough progress I think, to share with you guys.
Maybe it needs a synth produced arpeggio?
I also have to find a way I think, to have the drums speed up, prob with that typical trance drum roll?

https://soundcloud.com/user586365033/trance-test-1

This is nice.

But as I mentioned earlier on page 1, your last music track, Into Space more sounded like Trance music.
Use that as an example and Blast off.

[musikbear]

yes 140 bpm, and more kick 'umpf'. Kicker is really good! Add some noise and short attack + a little env
Or, just use the kick_hard01.ogg sample from drums
and slipsticks link to structure, is as said, golden

[Gps]

This is nice.

But as I mentioned earlier on page 1, your last music track, Into Space more sounded like Trance music.
Use that as an example and Blast off.

Thank you but this is a bit confusing to me. Don't get me wrong I am not arguing you. Tonitormx says the same.

No problem though, will just have to let this feedback sink in, and then I will get it.
Prob listen again to into space.

[Gps]

yes 140 bpm, and more kick 'umpf'. Kicker is really good! Add some noise and short attack + a little env
Or, just use the kick_hard01.ogg sample from drums
and slipsticks link to structure, is as said, golden

Thank you, you answer a question before I can post it, I was about to ask after some trying, how to get more umpf.
Right now using the kicker and an 808 kick twice, Tried to change the envelop, but that not do as much as I hoped.

[musikbear]

get more umpf.
Right now using the kicker and an 808 kick twice, Tried to change the envelop, but that not do as much as I hoped.

copy this

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE lmms-project>
<lmms-project version="1.0" creator="LMMS" creatorversion="1.1.1-g23d2824" type="instrumenttracksettings">
  <head/>
  <instrumenttracksettings muted="0" type="0" name="hardUmpfTranceKick" solo="0">
    <instrumenttrack pan="0" fxch="0" usemasterpitch="1" pitchrange="1" pitch="0" basenote="57" vol="100">
      <instrument name="kicker">
        <kicker decay_numerator="4" decay_denominator="4" distend="2" click="0.35" endnote="0" version="1" decay="440" syncmode="0" noise="0.5" slope="0.063" dist="0.2" env="0.287" startnote="1" startfreq="151" endfreq="31" gain="2.55"/>
      </instrument>
      <eldata fres="0.5" ftype="0" fcut="14000" fwet="0">
        <elvol lspd_denominator="4" sustain="0.5" pdel="0" userwavefile="" dec="0.5" lamt="0" syncmode="0" latt="0" rel="0.1" amt="0" x100="0" att="0" lpdel="0" hold="0.5" lshp="0" lspd="0.1" ctlenvamt="0" lspd_numerator="4"/>
        <elcut lspd_denominator="4" sustain="0.5" pdel="0" userwavefile="" dec="0.5" lamt="0" syncmode="0" latt="0" rel="0.1" amt="0" x100="0" att="0" lpdel="0" hold="0.5" lshp="0" lspd="0.1" ctlenvamt="0" lspd_numerator="4"/>
        <elres lspd_denominator="4" sustain="0.5" pdel="0" userwavefile="" dec="0.5" lamt="0" syncmode="0" latt="0" rel="0.1" amt="0" x100="0" att="0" lpdel="0" hold="0.5" lshp="0" lspd="0.1" ctlenvamt="0" lspd_numerator="4"/>
      </eldata>
      <chordcreator chord="0" chordrange="1" chord-enabled="0"/>
      <arpeggiator arptime="100" arprange="1" arptime_denominator="4" syncmode="0" arpmode="0" arp-enabled="0" arp="0" arptime_numerator="4" arpdir="0" arpgate="100"/>
      <midiport inputcontroller="0" fixedoutputvelocity="-1" inputchannel="0" outputcontroller="0" writable="0" outputchannel="1" fixedinputvelocity="-1" fixedoutputnote="-1" outputprogram="1" basevelocity="63" readable="0"/>
      <fxchain numofeffects="0" enabled="0"/>
    </instrumenttrack>
  </instrumenttracksettings>
</lmms-project>

into notepad
then save it in kicker presets as
hardUmpfTrancekick.xpf
or anything else.xpf
see if it loads in lmms. i think it will

[Gps]

Ty will try and report back. No notepad on Linux though, but that should not be a problem, I will find something like it.

Edit: Found a program with the name Kwrite, and it worked like a charm.

Now I see (or should I say hear) what you were trying to tell me. This is not what I tried to achieve, but it definitely making it more trance. Thank you.

[Gps]

What do I do from keeping it out the red area on the vu meter. A limiter or a compressor ? Or ignore the fact that its in the red ?

I definitely don't want to lower the volume much.

I should add I have an EQ on the fx channel of the kick to boost the low end a tad. (already had that in there)

[T0NIT0RMX]

What do I do from keeping it out the red area on the vu meter. A limiter or a compressor ? Or ignore the fact that its in the red ?

I definitely don't want to lower the volume much.

Try as much as possible to stay out of the Red ! Avoid cliping if it's not attended !

I would suggest a Compressor, you will set the threshold to a good value where it doesn't clip and then, you will raise the attack until you get enough "punch" in your kick, search on YT they are lots of tutorial to compress a kick without loosing that "punch"

[Gps]

Thank you

[T0NIT0RMX]

Thank you

No problem I hope you will find some nice stuff to help !
Don't hesitate watching other DAW tutorial where people show how they make trance !
That way, you will have a higher range of possibility in term of creation : meaning you will see people do some stuff with there paid (or not...) Vst's but you will try to immigrate them with your LMMS and your VST so you'll have to adapt the technics and you will get a unique result ! (It's the way I work)
Try to search for "how to make a trance kick" (not to get the VST which will make a kick but to see how it's made and reproduce it in your kicker you see ?)
Or trance "kick and bass eq compression"
That's ideas, but that works for almost everything including leads, Fx etc..