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I am very disappointed, Jean Michel Jarre does not use LMMS, he uses Albeton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBMNRqltnRI

Gps wrote:I am very disappointed, Jean Michel Jarre does not use LMMS, he uses Albeton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBMNRqltnRI

Lol!

And I'm jealous because he has a studio full of hardware I'd love including at least three of my favourite VCS3s that he only seems to use for noise sweeps and imitation theremin sounds. Though to be fair they always were a real pain to keep in tune, even worse than Minimoogs .

Steve

http://lmms.io/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4& ... 220#p21991

no one likes to play :]

The 'sandman' came from a beach and that was with other boys
Yes beachboys
The track is Good Vibration,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eab_beh07HU
from @0:24

-and Brian Wilson also used the theremin in his animal-sounds project. Nowadays acclaimed as a masterpiece, but ordinance expected more 'good-vibrations', and his 'animal' was a serious fail

I guess my "I'm picking up....the sound of a theremin" was a bit too subtle . You know as in "I'm picking up Good Vibrations", the main chorus.

Oh well, I knew what and who I meant. Brilliant track even if it did take him ages to put together .

BTW just to be picky, it wasn't actually a real theremin on either Good Vibrations or the "Pet Sounds" LP. It was an instrument based on the theremin sound but with completely different controls called an Electro-Theremin. Knobs and slides, no hand-waving around antennas. But despite that you're right it is still often quoted as the most famous use of a theremin .

Steve

slipstick wrote:I guess my "I'm picking up....the sound of a theremin"
was a bit too subtle :). You know as in "I'm picking up Good Vibrations", the main chorus.

..I never even saw your http://lmms.io/forum/posting.php?mode=q ... 54#pr22023
I have NO idea why, except me going in bat-mode

BTW just to be picky, it wasn't actually a real theremin on either Good Vibrations or the "Pet Sounds" LP.

Thanks! thats really interesting info. I diddent knew that. I saw a swedish program, where they said that Brian W had direct contact to the russian inventor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_Theremin
and you also had the right name for BWs symphonic suite : PET-sound, not animal.
:)

I remember seeing a film about the making of Good Vibrations and they kept talking about the theremin then showing an instrument that obviously wasn't a theremin...so I looked it up.

BTW another bit of trivia...did you know that long before he developed his famous modular synthesizers, Bob Moog used to build and sell genuine theremins ?

Still, we're a bit off topic so I guess we'd better let Gps get back to his struggles with music. I think he's very nearly beaten it .

Steve

slipstick wrote:And I'm jealous because he has a studio full of hardware I'd love including at least three of my favourite VCS3s that he only seems to use for noise sweeps and imitation theremin sounds. Though to be fair they always were a real pain to keep in tune, even worse than Minimoogs .

Steve

I love a few parts of it.

How he records the sounds from the original synths, to use it in albeton.

The part were he talks about the trouble with certain synth sounds were you have no mid.
It really made me smile because I recognized that problem from making music with LMMS.

I am jealous too, it should not be allowed to have a Moog and a mini Moog. gready basterd

musikbear wrote:http://lmms.io/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4& ... 220#p21991

no one likes to play :]

The 'sandman' came from a beach and that was with other boys
Yes beachboys
The track is Good Vibration,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eab_beh07HU
from @0:24

-and Brian Wilson also used the theremin in his animal-sounds project. Nowadays acclaimed as a masterpiece, but ordinance expected more 'good-vibrations', and his 'animal' was a serious fail

I think I never would have guessed that. When I just listened I noticed for the first time that theremin sound.

slipstick wrote:I remember seeing a film about the making of Good Vibrations and they kept talking about the theremin then showing an instrument that obviously wasn't a theremin...so I looked it up.

BTW another bit of trivia...did you know that long before he developed his famous modular synthesizers, Bob Moog used to build and sell genuine theremins ?

Still, we're a bit off topic so I guess we'd better let Gps get back to his struggles with music. I think he's very nearly beaten it .

Steve

I think I am getting there. ( and don't worry about going off topic in my topics, I don't mind at all, and like it )

The part that makes me most happy is that I finally have some feel for how a melody will look in lmms.
Not giving up even when I got so frustrated, I got very aggressive ideas toward my computer keyboard.

The biggest frustration for me was, that I could tap along any song before I had used LMMS.
My sense of rhythm, was already good enough, even to a point, that when a piece of sheet music was confusing me, the solution for me was simple.
Don't look at the sheet music, take you're midi controller and find the right spot ( timing wise ) for that note just by ear.
( the Cure - A forest)
When I saw the result in LMMS, I instantly understood what that piece of sheet music was trying to tell me.

I knew there was music in me. I was ones was listening to a blues player, and could not sit still.
Our eyes met, and there was this link, of people who like (love) music.

Very happy I did not listen to the people who blamed lmms for my music not sounding professional, and wanted me to switch to a different program.
I was right, that switching to another program would not have solved anything.

LMMS was never the problem, the problem for me was to get a connection between what I hear and what I see on a computer screen.
( And train my ears and learn some music theory )

There is also a little negative effect, because of my progress.
Some of the magic of the music from Jean Michel Jarre and Vangelis has died.

I am also starting to get a better feel for which part the guy plays, and which parts the synthesizers are playing.

Listening to music for as long as I can remember, but in a lot of the songs, I have heard many times already, I notice new things, or minor variations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT5zCHn0tsg

Only a year back I did not notice the minor changes, Vangelis makes in this melody. And that's why my cover attempt sounded so boring.
Of course I did notice my version did not sound the same, but not having a clue why got me upset.