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[brandystarbrite]

Ahhh!
This is waaay much better now.
At least it's in sync now.
And sounding better.
Yay!
Nice to see, you're again figuring out your tiny mistakes, in your music track.
Great job!

But,....the synth that starts at 28 secs and ends at 1:26 secs, started off really good, then you dropped the notes placement down a bit too low. Making it sound a bit, contrasting with the bass of the music track.
Shouldn't it go up, to match the Happyish tone of the other instruments?
I think it's the same thing with that same synth sound, from 3:33 secs onward.
It starts off good, then goes too low.

Note: Sorry if I'm confusing you.
This is soooo difficult for me to explain in words, that even I'm confusing myself. Ha! Ha!

PS: You're almost there, to perfecting this music track. Just a few minor adjustments and it will be Great! Smile.

[Gps]

Never worry about giving feedback to me. The only thing I ask, and that's what I am getting, is an honest reply.

It would be more fun if your were sitting next to me. That would make things a lot easier to discuss.

I just tried to put that synthpart an octave higher, and you are right it does fit better in the happyish tone.
Something I am gonna think about. I like the sound of that synth better when it is were it is now, but it sounds better in the composition, when I put it one octave higher. Life is never easy LOL

Maybe I listened too much to Jean michel Jarre Oxygene 4.

It does causes some issues with the detuned ghost later on in the song, but that might simple to fix, with just a bit more volume for the detuned ghost, or lowering the volume of this synth.

This is however how it would sound ( just the start, for this test I deleted the rest of the song)
The synth we are talking about, 1 octave higher. Maybe I should look for a note in between ?

https://soundcloud.com/user586365033/happyness2

[brandystarbrite]

Never worry about giving feedback to me. The only thing I ask, and that's what I am getting, is an honest reply.

It would be more fun if your were sitting next to me. That would make things a lot easier to discuss.

Glad I could help.

Ha! Ha! Well, I live in the Tropics, and I was surprised to find out, that some Lmms users live down here too.
Another Lmms user who lives in my area, said the exact same thing you said.

What you say is true, but I'll add more to that.
Sometimes it is better when you have a group of people, and you can all sit down and help others with music, or discuss music. It helps when you are in contact with people.
Better, if the person knows alot more about music etc. than you.
So yeah, it is always nice when you can meet/sit down with people/music makers in person, to discuss music or help with music etc.
That way, they could show you what you're doing wrong and what to do to improve your music etc.

I just tried to put that synthpart an octave higher, and you are right it does fit better in the happyish tone.
Something I am gonna think about. I like the sound of that synth better when it is were it is now, but it sounds better in the composition, when I put it one octave higher.

Wow! I just listened to your cut of your music track. You didn't have to go too high, but it really really sounds cool!
Even I am amazed by it and how it sounds.

Maybe I listened too much to Jean michel Jarre Oxygene 4.

Lol! You should listen to Skavens music too.
He is also famous for making the Bejewelled music track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmBLRV4qaaQ

This is however how it would sound ( just the start, for this test I deleted the rest of the song)
The synth we are talking about, 1 octave higher. Maybe I should look for a note in between ?

Well, experiment and see how it sounds.
Save that short eg. you made, and make another short one.
Probably this time, with the Synth notes placed in between, the two octaves that you previously used?
And compare both versions and decide which one you prefer more.
Oh, if you do that, upload the newer short eg. so we could hear it too and compare.

[Gps]

I went up one octave, for two reasons. First it will make clear if moving the notes up, is a good idea, and I think it is.
Second, if I move all notes one octave up, I will stay in scale, and wont create bum notes, and I wont have to change the melody.

I will see if I can find an inbetween note, but I fear I will have to change chords and or the melody. for that. (to stay in tune / scale)
So that prob not gonna be easy. ( And if I have to change the melody, I will have to do it for all tracks)

First part is now in C mayor second part is in F mayor. You cant just copy paste tracks from one part to another. That was one of the mistakes I had made.

The chord vid from musicbear shows the problem, or shall we call it a challenge :p
I have also used chords inversions, so I can't just move notes from lets say c to d without causing problems.

[slipstick]

This is where you need to learn about intervals....if you move your synth line up a 5th or maybe a 4th it should work o.k.

Moving up a fifth just means playing the 5th note IN THE SCALE up from what you're playing now. So if you're in the scale of C major and playing a C try a G (c,d, e,f,g), if you're playing an E try a B (e,f,g,a,b). It's pretty easy and should almost always sound o.k. (all those rock power chords like in Smoke on the Water are basically just 5ths played together....so a C and G together). Give it a try .

Steve

[Gps]

Omg, how do you know this stuff LOL.

G does indeed cause the least issues, although some notes go out of scale. I was just trying what I could do, and found G.
With that trick you told me, I had put in a mayor chord so I found E and G.

I had to change three chords, from mayor to minor to stay in the scale and that did not make me happy.

Smoke on the water <3

Hmm maybe I can cheat my way out. Its only one of the three notes, in a chord, that goes out of scale. ( three in total in 16 bars / blocks in the song editor)
If I call it a deliberate dissonance who can argue me ? LOL

Lets see what my ears think about that.

[Gps]

My ears do not let me get away with those three out of scale notes. ( when I move the melody to G )

So it will need more work.

[Gps]

I made a second version, were one synth is now at G instead of C.

I had to use a new trick, I just learned, thank you musicbear, to keep it in scale without changing the melody.

Its either this version or the previous version. I can't go in between because I used M and m chords, which makes the melody kinda stick in the scale.
So it C or G for the synth.

https://soundcloud.com/user586365033/happynessg

[brandystarbrite]

Sounding really good.
You have really been improving alot, on the last couple of trys.
And your motiviation, to improve your hearing and make better music is really paying off.

I see that you again, added a bit extra more, on your music track. Nice.
Now I can't decide, between the previous version or this one. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Hmmm........I wonder if a simple "pitch change," will help that same synth, sound a bit better?
But still, it's sounding nice though.

[Gps]

LOl, I have exactly the same problem. I think i like the sound of that one synth in the first version better.
But you're suggestion about making it more happy is still a good one.

If I understand that pitch knob right, I cant change that, if I want to stay in tune. No harm in trying though.