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Gps wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:25 pm

Funny that you mention a swell sound.

Sounds like that is one thing I start to notice in tracks. ( to hide the music is repetitive )

Yep. I myself noticed that a few times too.
Especially when an Lmms user on this forum, pointed it out in a few Rap/DnB tracks etc.
Then I started to look at swell sounds, in a much different light. And started to see their
creativity and usefulness in music tracks.

Gps wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:25 pm

I love you sound tuts.
I learn allot form it.

Glad to know, that people are finding them useful and learning alot from them
and other tuts, posted by musikbear, Leche, mr.lmmsguy and other Lmms users too etc.

In that case, I think it's time, I made some tuts, specifically on Trance sounds
and 80's style sounds. (Even though, I have 1 or 2 of them, posted already)
I'll try and work on those this week and post them up as soon as I can.

On another note, I have a Synth 1 pad sound tut, that I'm still working on.
I hope to put that tut up soon.

I am currently struggling with ska.

An example of Ska

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVoXUGolOlo

I have found a drum tutorial, but I am getting confused and or, the open and closed hi hats in lmms don't belong together?

Notice the drummer in the you tube vid. The rimshot and hihats.

My problem how ever comes from this vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X4jR9M7YJs

Hi hat closing on 2 and 4 , can I do this in lmms ?
When I try the lmms sampels it sounds nothing like the vid.
( its like the open and closed hi hats dont belong together ? )

Second ska question, this guy is talking about a pause.
What is confusing me though, how to do this in lmms, I cant figure out were that pause should be timing wise.
at 1.48m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1akvOU8Xbzg

Anybody has a clue were the pause is ?
Is it on 1 2 3 or 4 or in between ?
He says:
left righ left right left right pause, so that would be in lmms terms on 3 ?
You skip the third note, in the second bar ?

On a site note not all ska has that pause, the first vid I linked is ska, but does not do that pause.

The exact difference between ska and reagae I still don't get, but one simple difference is the speed.Ska is usual fast were reggae is slow.

Gps wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:37 pm

Second ska question, this guy is talking about a pause.
What is confusing me though, how to do this in lmms, I cant figure out were that pause should be timing wise.
at 1.48m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1akvOU8Xbzg

Anybody has a clue were the pause is ?
Is it on 1 2 3 or 4 or in between ?
He says:
left righ left right left right pause, so that would be in lmms terms on 3 ?
You skip the third note, in the second bar ?

On a site note not all ska has that pause, the first vid I linked is ska, but does not do that pause.

The exact difference between ska and reagae I still don't get, but one simple difference is the speed.Ska is usual fast were reggae is slow.

I've made something four you on the LSP (same notes and same rhythm) : https://lmms.io/lsp/?action=show&file=11348

(made with a super "flexible rubber keyboard", so be indulgent please)

Does that help?

Is thIs SKA?
https://soundcloud.com/musikbear/ska-stub

Gps wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:37 pm

I am currently struggling with ska.

The exact difference between ska and reagae I still don't get, but one simple difference is the speed.Ska is usual fast were reggae is slow.

Ahhh. It seems you have forgotten one little key something, that I believe you mentioned,
months ago, that gives ska it's unique characteristics, when compared to reggae.

Ska has an upbeat cheery sound and vibe to it.
If I remember correctly, in one of the vids you posted, one of the people they interviewed
made that mention too.

It's thanks to you, giving us that small bit of info and posting vids on Ska, that I was able to hear
and partially understand, the difference between the two styles.
Just that statement, that Ska has an upbeat cheery sound and vibe to it, made me see
both styles, in a completely different manner.

And then,...........it all started to make sense.

musikbear wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:22 pm

Is thIs SKA?
https://soundcloud.com/musikbear/ska-stub

I think it is, but I find it beyond hard to to find the difference between reggae and ska,
( except for the speed part, and it being more cheerfull )

D.Ipsum wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:29 pm

Gps wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:37 pm

Second ska question, this guy is talking about a pause.
What is confusing me though, how to do this in lmms, I cant figure out were that pause should be timing wise.
at 1.48m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1akvOU8Xbzg

Anybody has a clue were the pause is ?
Is it on 1 2 3 or 4 or in between ?
He says:
left righ left right left right pause, so that would be in lmms terms on 3 ?
You skip the third note, in the second bar ?

On a site note not all ska has that pause, the first vid I linked is ska, but does not do that pause.

The exact difference between ska and reagae I still don't get, but one simple difference is the speed.Ska is usual fast were reggae is slow.

I've made something four you on the LSP (same notes and same rhythm) : https://lmms.io/lsp/?action=show&file=11348

(made with a super "flexible rubber keyboard", so be indulgent please)

Does that help?

Thank you and yes, this does help, now I only need to figure out the drums.

I might just have to download drumsamples better suited for reaggae and ska.
I cant get anything close to ska with the samples that come with lmms.

Hi hat closing on 2 and 4 , can I do this in lmms ? ( with the standard drum samples )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X4jR9M7YJs

brandystarbrite wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:47 am

Gps wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:37 pm

I am currently struggling with ska.

The exact difference between ska and reagae I still don't get, but one simple difference is the speed.Ska is usual fast were reggae is slow.

Ahhh. It seems you have forgotten one little key something, that I believe you mentioned,
months ago, that gives ska it's unique characteristics, when compared to reggae.

Ska has an upbeat cheery sound and vibe to it.
If I remember correctly, in one of the vids you posted, one of the people they interviewed
made that mention too.

It's thanks to you, giving us that small bit of info and posting vids on Ska, that I was able to hear
and partially understand, the difference between the two styles.
Just that statement, that Ska has an upbeat cheery sound and vibe to it, made me see
both styles, in a completely different manner.

And then,...........it all started to make sense.

A nice example of more modern Ska although modern is relative, because this is from the 80 ties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLLL1Kx ... KxpYMA#t=2

Gps wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:01 pm

now I only need to figure out the drums.

I might just have to download drumsamples better suited for reaggae and ska.
I cant get anything close to ska with the samples that come with lmms.

Hi hat closing on 2 and 4 , can I do this in lmms ? ( with the standard drum samples )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X4jR9M7YJs

I do not know, I did not try.
Maybe the LMMS samples do not allow it?

Several possibilities :
- download sample banks until you find the right samples.
- sample your video reference, and cut it into several one shot samples.
- sample this video, put the audio track in LMMS, find the bpm, and use it as a reference track to do tests until you find the right samples.
- Synthesize your hats.
- work with layering of samples (and synthesized sounds).
-?

Thank you, what seems to confuse me, is that the open and closed hihat samples in lmms, don't seem to belong together.

Can anybody confirm this ?

I like the sample the video idea.

That should make it easier in lmms to find were I want the hits.

This might help too.
https://freemidi.org/download-13714-bag ... rs-madness