Vu meter on fx mixer in the red, bad ?

[Gps]

..rats -have a picture of fx-vu-meter at 0 dB, but it need a 'home' - i will add it later, cause now it is not showing up (another 'little' thing that went away in the upgrade:(
The thing is - clipping occur ~4 'steps' before the meter max out
Thats worth to remember

And again thank you.

[brandystarbrite]

..rats -have a picture of fx-vu-meter at 0 dB, but it need a 'home' - i will add it later, cause now it is not showing up (another 'little' thing that went away in the upgrade:(
The thing is - clipping occur ~4 'steps' before the meter max out
Thats worth to remember


so here it is - Its not the pulsing bars you should look at, it is the 2 max-lines.
I did this with a limiter, and a clipping meter. This is exactly where the first clipping occur, eg >0dB, and that is a bit before max on the meter

Ahh.
Thanks for that info musikbear.
I knew something was strange with that meter. Lol!

[brandystarbrite]

How bad is it, if one track is constantly in the red area ?
What confuses me, is one track. Its a choir track. Its constantly in the red, but I don't hear distortion.
The master channel, is not in the red, or at least not as extreme.

I was wondering the same thing too.
In my case, I have a synth sound linked to FX channel 2, and it is close in the red zone.
But the master channel, it is not in the red zone at all.
Note: I have no Vst's effects etc. directly linked to the master channel.
Only the normal FX channels have stuff.

The master channel is the important one. Keep it (constantly) below red levels to prevent clipping, over-steering, etc. Other channels are allowed to hit red levels, but it's best to listen to each channel individually just to test and check if it sounds what you are aiming for. If it does, it's good, even when it's red.

Interesting info caLRo.
In my case, I always keep the master channel out of the red zone.
But one of the other normal FX channels is in the red zone a bit and I was wondering if I could get away with it.

Good thing I found this post.
I read all of the other posters points too.
Very informative.

I will try to figure out, what to do.
Thanks guys.

[caLRo]

Almost a year old topic. Since then I have got used to the not-so-accurate metering in the FX-mixer, relying more on my headphones than what is on my screen.

Some more info on this topic: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4816&p=15802

I'm now considering using external plugins (VSTs) for more accurate metering purposes (in addition to Voxengo SPAN). Does anyone have recommendations?

[StakeoutPunch]

Voxengo SPAN is my go to choice when I don't have access to the FL plugin suite (so just in LMMS, ha)

[Snarf]

Yeah, I just started using SPAN and it's much better than the stock spectrum analyzer (which is what I used to rely on). Aside from giving a better idea of what frequencies are at what levels, it records clipping in real time so it's extremely easy to find when clipping occurs, and where in the spectrum it probably is.

Voxengo SPAN is my go to choice when I don't have access to the FL plugin suite (so just in LMMS, ha)

Isn't there a way to use FL plugins in LMMS via VST?

[musikbear]

SPAN is exelent. A plugin with a few more features is the bluecat-meter, but thats has a serious disadvantage You cant leave it in a project! Never! The project wont open again, and you need to move the dll, like:
https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Wo ... d_problems
Go with SPAN -And observe the nifty clip-counter!

[brandystarbrite]

Voxengo SPAN?
I shall check it out immediately.
http://www.voxengo.com/product/span/

Wow! They even have compressors and other cool stuff too.