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Latest attempt.

Its still a bit of a time line, of me on the hunt of a trance melody.

I like the start but that prob gonna be a different track.

I do wonder most about 1.50 and after that. Is that finally a trance melody or is it more house like?

Although I am happy about the sound and feel, I am not sure its trance.
The part before 1.50 is for me a blend of trance and music like jean michel jarre.

It does get me into a trance and I do have problem sitting still, while listening to it. Chord progression needs work I think though.

Also would like to hear feedback on the melody part returning at 5.29. I like it but I think it has to go, if I want to make a trance track ?
( because trance does not have a verse and chorus ? )

The organ has to do with my original idea, some kind of trance, with a a bit of Deep Purple (John Lord r.i.p. on organ) influence.
For those that do not know John Lord: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKRRlX3fj9I
If only I could play like him. There is also a you tube vid, about how he adjusted the Hammond organ to fit into hard rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mW9b_KRedQ

Sorry about the lag of transitions, but its wip, and I first want to have some kind of hook.
( its for now also missing the typical snare roll, but I already hear one spot were that would fit perfectly )

https://soundcloud.com/user586365033/new-04export2

This is good! Nice drive and you have some really fine melodies running subtle inside the main theme. Liked that. The key shifts works fine.
I think a sweep in the breakdown and use of a filter in some parts would improve it. Automation is so easy in lmms, so go for it :p
8 mins is long, but if you take one of the end parts and do some filtering, eg a 2. breakdown, then 8 mins would work better. Also more work on the percussion, with a roll out of breakdown, and i would like more variation in percussion too, but its good!

Thank you.

A second break down sounds easy enough. ( with some variation of course ) It definitely needs filters.

8 min is a bit long but the first 1.50 min will be taken out, and will be turned into something very close to, but prob not really trance.

Not looking forward to the real mixing and mastering part.
How I am gonna free the drums from the other sounds. I know what I have to do in theory, but have zero to nun experience with that part.
(cutting frequencies )

I am glad you liked that melody inside the melody, I was worried it did not fit at all.

Now I can start to work on a intro, and dive again into side chaining.

Gps wrote:I do wonder most about 1.50 and after that. Is that finally a trance melody or is it more house like?

It sounds more like a trance melody to me.

Gps wrote:Also would like to hear feedback on the melody part returning at 5.29. I like it but I think it has to go, if I want to make a trance track ?
( because trance does not have a verse and chorus ? )

I don't think it should go.
Something like that verse chorus thing, was done in that classic Trance Techno Fantasy song I linked you too earlier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6b3OYRKQ9Q
And in other Trance tracks too.
The old Trance classic tracks seem to do that more though.
But it is sometimes done, in a sorts of unique ways too.

For a Wip, this is pretty good.
And it's fast too.

Gps wrote:( its for now also missing the typical snare roll, but I already hear one spot were that would fit perfectly )

I was wondering where the good ol' snare roll was. He! He!
Glad you realised that too.
There are many different styles of Trance snare rolls.
Some versions are airy, other versions are hard etc.
I like how the Japanese do it sometimes.
They always do these things cool.

PS: A Wip song, I'll go easy on ya. He! He!

Is it just me, or is soundcloud giving problems for the past week?

The menu bar, that also has the avatar pic and options, at the top of the soundcloud screen seems to disappear after a while and I can't even log out, or find other songs easily etc.

Oh boy, it just happened again. Lol!

I had constant problem with firefox and streamcloud, but lately its working fine for me.
I saw you liked the track though.

About the song, one thing missing mostly right now besides the snare rolls are transitions, it now just jumps in certain parts from one theme to another.
And although I like that to happen in some cases, in this track it sets you off. It takes you out of the trance.

Gps wrote:I had constant problem with firefox and streamcloud, but lately its working fine for me.

Hopefully it works for me too.

Gps wrote:I saw you liked the track though.

Yep. It has potential.

Gps wrote:About the song, one thing missing mostly right now besides the snare rolls are transitions, it now just jumps in certain parts from one theme to another.

Fade outs or fade ins, or drops, that transition into the next part of the music track, might work in these cases.
There are many different ways you could do this. Or you could go the creative route, and do your own thing.

musikbear wrote: I think a sweep in the breakdown and use of a filter in some parts would improve it. Automation is so easy in lmms, so go for it :p
8 mins is long, but if you take one of the end parts and do some filtering, eg a 2. breakdown, then 8 mins would work better. Also more work on the percussion, with a roll out of breakdown, and i would like more variation in percussion too, but its good!

Three question after thinking about you're feedback

How do I make sweeps ?

I think I know what you mean, but I am not sure.
A sound that goes from left to right and fades in and out is that a sweep ?

Then a roll out, I am lost there lol

Third question; More variation in the percussion. I already change one thing.
First I had all the same kicks. Now at the end of the bars there is another hit, and also halfway there a sligthly different extra hit.
Is that enough? Or were you thinking about something else?

To all, making progress and I now have an intro and two drum ( 808 snare) rolls.

brandystarbrite wrote:
Fade outs or fade ins, or drops, that transition into the next part of the music track, might work in these cases.
There are many different ways you could do this. Or you could go the creative route, and do your own thing.

For now I am happy, I have some fade ins and some transitions, and two snares rolls.

Hope to upload something is a day or two.

Then you're very welcome to nitpick on details.

While typig this I realize i have not used any filter yet, lets hope I wont for get about that.
Its almost mandatory in trance.

I think I made enough progress to share ones more.
It now even has a title

Beyond The Stars

As said before added drum rolls, very curious about what you guys think of them.
Added an intro.

The track now has some structure, and from the top of my head three more sounds.

Was able to spice up the bassline a bit more.

[rant]A bit unhappy about the dynamics lost after the upload to soundcloud.
But what can we do about that. It also changes the loudness between the different sounds a bit.
if I listen to it on my pc, it definitely sounds better. The organ blends in better. [/rant]

@ music bear, is that a roll out at 1.14 ?

@ all, about those filters were should I use them?

( if I release a 120 bpm version it prob sounds a lot like music from Jean Michel Jarre lol
Its 140 bpm right now. 138 sound good too, but I think 140 is right.