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Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:24 pm**

So I've been making this remake of JonTron's theme, but the piano isn't good. It doesn't sound as "big" and orchestral as I want it to, and the song is too empty, but I'm not sure what to do to fix this. I'm using a piano soundfont, so that'll likely be why. Can anyone give me advice on how to improve it and link me to some better pianos/pianos that will fit better?

Link: https://clyp.it/hdmmk0xv

Thanks!

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:59 pm**

You could try, a piano vst.

Then you can put in chords in the piano roll, which should help to make it sound more full.

https://soundcloud.com/user586365033/ourhousemusic-1

I used 4 front piano. Very simple vst, but I think the piano sound is rather good.
Another piano vst I have is called jazz baby. That one was very use full when I tried to cover still Dre by Dre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi_zySsnPXI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnyiQiotEYQ

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:36 pm**

As Gps says, look for free or commercial VST piano.

You have also piano in soundfont (.sf2).

I don't have one in mind.

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:55 am**

A solo piano is never going to sound "orchestral" but if you add a bit of chorus and reverb to it that should fill it out a bit.

Steve

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:24 am**

I did manage to fix it using a synth and some eq to get rid of the muffledness, here's the finished version;
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/763024

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:09 am**

I think that sounds really good

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:23 pm**

Sounds better!

If this can help : Parallel processing could further improve the sound:

- Send your piano in a mixer channel called here "Piano-Start"
- In Piano-Start, remove the SEND to the master channel.
- Send Piano-Start to three other channels called here "Piano-FX1", "Piano-FX2" and "Piano-End".
- In Piano-FX1 and Piano-FX2, remove the SEND to the master channel.
- Send Piano-FX1 and Piano-FX2 to Piano-End
- Send Piano-End to the master channel

- In Piano FX1, for example, add an EQ, and modify the EQ values randomly (you will correct them later, you can boost the low frequencies if you want).
- In Piano FX2, for example, add a reverb.

In fact, the idea is to try all the effects you want in FX1 and FX2.

So the signal path is as follows:
- VST Piano > Piano-Start > Piano-End > Master channel
- VST Piano > Piano-Start > Piano-FX1 > Piano-End > Master channel
- VST Piano > Piano-Start > Piano-FX2 > Piano-End > Master channel

The idea is:
- The dry signal will go directly from Piano-Start to Piano-End
- The signal will be processed in Piano-FX1 and Piano-FX2.
- The dry signal and the processed signal will be mixed in Piano-End. This mixing will be done via the SEND from Piano-FX1 and Piano-FX2 to Piano-End.

I do not know if it's well explained ...

Posted: **Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:48 am**

Gps wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:09 am
I think that sounds really good

Thank you!

D.Ipsum wrote: Sounds better!

If this can help : Parallel processing could further improve the sound:

- Send your piano in a mixer channel called here "Piano-Start"
- In Piano-Start, remove the SEND to the master channel.
- Send Piano-Start to three other channels called here "Piano-FX1", "Piano-FX2" and "Piano-End".
- In Piano-FX1 and Piano-FX2, remove the SEND to the master channel.
- Send Piano-FX1 and Piano-FX2 to Piano-End
- Send Piano-End to the master channel

- In Piano FX1, for example, add an EQ, and modify the EQ values randomly (you will correct them later, you can boost the low frequencies if you want).
- In Piano FX2, for example, add a reverb.

In fact, the idea is to try all the effects you want in FX1 and FX2.

So the signal path is as follows:
- VST Piano > Piano-Start > Piano-End > Master channel
- VST Piano > Piano-Start > Piano-FX1 > Piano-End > Master channel
- VST Piano > Piano-Start > Piano-FX2 > Piano-End > Master channel

The idea is:
- The dry signal will go directly from Piano-Start to Piano-End
- The signal will be processed in Piano-FX1 and Piano-FX2.
- The dry signal and the processed signal will be mixed in Piano-End. This mixing will be done via the SEND from Piano-FX1 and Piano-FX2 to Piano-End.

I do not know if it's well explained ...

I'll try this out!

Does it need to be done for individual pianos or can it work universally?

Posted: **Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:21 am**

Parallel processing can apply for anything and everything:
- on a single instrument,
- on a group of instruments (eg drums),
- on all instruments
- and any effect can be applied in parallel (e.g. parallel compression or "New York Compression").

In my opinion, the great advantage is the experimentation and the discovery of unexpected things, by finely controlling the amount of parallel processing that we want to mix with the original signal.

Personally, it has not been long since I tried it, and I'm starting to get interesting results (not yet on Soundcloud ...).

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