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Piano Roll Notes Not Placing Correctly

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:51 am
by BigGreenButton
Hey all, first time poster and user here.

So, like all of you, i'm trying to make a song and something's not working.
I'm using a piano VST with the Vestige host, the problem is, the piano roll editor won't let me place notes where i want to.
It keeps magnetizing them to different points.

For example: If i'm trying to place a quarter note on the 0th beat of a measure it works fine. Same with the 1st 2nd and 3rd beats. But if i try to place it so it starts on the 0.5 beat of a measure, it will snap to the 0th or 1st.

It does the same thing to smaller notes, making the VST useless.

Does anyone know whats going on here? I'm super confused.

Thanks a bunch,
BigGreenButton

Re: Piano Roll Notes Not Placing Correctly

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:16 am
by vortexsupernova
If you want a more precise position on notes you should change the Quantization. It is found right side of the zoom or magnification axis in Piano-Roll. The icon has capital letter Q in white color.

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The smaller the value, the more precise. If the value in the quatization is multiple of 4 (1/16 1/32, 1/64) those value is for the song where beats are 2 or 4 in each measure, e.g. 4-4, 2-4. (the numerator must be multiple of 2) While for the 3 beats is 1/3, 1/6, 1/12 that is found below the 1/64 is for time signatures 3-4, 3-8, 6-8, etc. (The numerator should be multiples of 3)

1/1 means one note (positioned on the first beat) per measure
1/2 means 2 notes positioned on the first beat and third beat/measure
1/4 means 1 note for each beat/measure
1/16 means 2 notes for each beat/measure
and so on...
(^^^these only apply to 4 or 2 beat song)

You can change the quantization by using the mouse wheel or clicking the left arrow beside it.

hope this helps.

Re: Piano Roll Notes Not Placing Correctly

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:45 pm
by musikbear
BigGreenButton wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:51 am
Hey all, first time poster and user here.
Hi Welcome to the forum BigGreenButton ! Here are all our important links:
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piano roll editor won't let me place notes where i want to.
It keeps magnetizing them to different points.
You can learn about piano-roll here:
https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Piano_Roll_Editor


The setting you need to look at is as vortexsupernova says the Q-value
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The default value is 1/16, but you can choose any of the selects values.
But you can also place notes without Q-value. You then need to move notes with alt pressed down. that will make the notes sound 'humanized'
Later we hope to introduce this feature as an post-edit-option.