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Hey, im training music production in LMMS and im having a hard time putting in the idea for the melody i have in my head onto the piano roll. I have some questions,

Do you have to figure out what key your melody is in prior to laying it out or can you just lay it in a random key and then rearrange the notes into a different key that you prefer?

If you want to know what key your melody is in, how can you figure that out? Sometimes i hum it out the root note or play it out as piano in my head but i get confused as to what note matches that note.

Further, what advice do you have for someone like me? I already learnt music theory, now i want to practice laying out melodies, chords and beats ( im alright with chords and beats, melodies are currently the issue ) before i move on to manipulating synths and stuff.
james william wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:57 pm
im having a hard time putting in the idea for the melody i have in my head onto the piano roll. I have some questions,

Do you have to figure out what key your melody is in prior to laying it out or can you just lay it in a random key and then rearrange the notes into a different key that you prefer?
Yes that would be my way
If you want to know what key your melody is in, how can you figure that out?
Are you familiar with keys and scale? You say you know music theory, so scales should be 'known' right. LMMS has a super scale-tool, maby the easiest way is to watch my scale videos..
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... cH1Rs56V8c

Here i use the tools a lot.

Further, what advice do you have for someone like me?
I made a vid on how to get from 'inside head' to piano-roll. Its best when the BPM is relatively low, but give it a try, and see if it works for you:
https://youtu.be/1LN9jivwRhs

Besides that, since you are new in Forum
Welcome james william
Here are all important links:
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For melodies I think the timing and the intervals between notes are far more important than the key. So I start almost everything off in C (all the white notes). and then when the timing and shape of the melody are about right I'll move it up or down to where I want it.

But that may just be me and I don't have anything like perfect pitch so the difference in sound between being in the key of say E (4 sharps) or F (1 flat) is not much at all.

Steve
Topic has been moved to Production Help.
As i know that Melody is a horizontal element in music. In many genres of music, the whole pieces usually rely on melodies and they are what makes people remember and categorize the pieces. So some Indian give their overview on melody. [link removed by admin]
the intervals between notes are far more important than the key. So I start almost everything off in C (all the white notes).
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I start almost everything off in C (all the white notes). and then when the timing and shape of the melody are about right I'll move it up or down to where I want it.

But that may just be me and I don't have anything like perfect pitch so the difference in sound between being in the key of say E (4 sharps) or F (1 flat) is not much at all.
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james william wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:57 pm
Hey,
Hi, Welcome to the Forum james william!
Here are all important links:
http://lmms.io/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4740
-A few rules and useful forum instructions

Most of your questions can be, if not answered, then at least addressed in this video, where i take a melody from 'head' and plot it out in piano-roll:
https://youtu.be/1LN9jivwRhs
figure out what key your melody is
As you start getting 'good' notes plotted in, you can use a scale-finder
In our links to useful-resources we recommend
http://www.scales-chords.com/scalefinder.php/
If you want to know what key your melody is in, how can you figure that out?
Again that comes with the scale, but you can always go 'safe' and simply work from Amin or CMaj. Those are complementary scales, and are all the white keys!
Further, what advice do you have for someone like me?
Without sounding too precocious; being here and having the best free music tool available, is a great start!
Feel free to ask about anything, post links to your musical ideas, and enjoy our active community :)

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