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Random rythms in piano roll when recording with midi-pads

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:22 am
by spaceman1980
Hi musikbear (since you're probably the only person who will respond),

I'm using the shortcircuit VST to map specific .wav files to notes like C4, C#4, D4 etc. which I can then control with my Arturia Keylab 49. While my keyboard has keys (of course) which I could also control the samples with, the samples are drum samples and I like using the 8 pads which are part of the controller. I am able to fully control the sounds I mapped - everything was going perfectly, not much latency, I could tap out a beat.

But when I go to the piano-roll to record my beat, (again, the input is recognized - when I tap the buttons, the keys in the piano-roll even light up) it simply did not record. The piano keys did record note events, but the pads sadly did nothing. Right before posting this, I checked again and the behavior changed - now, when I record, it records at the right note but at a completely random rhythm. That's right, when I press the pad OR the piano keys, the note will appear nowhere near the timeline marker - it will sometimes even appear before other notes I already played!

I've restarted LMMS / unplugged the MIDI / switched the instrument the MIDI is an input to / made a new beat/bassline. Any ideas? Thank you so much.

Re: Random rythms in piano roll when recording with midi-pads

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:51 am
by Sahaathyva
Hi

I ve read overthere many times that drumpads dont work with lmms, sadly..

This said I have akai mpd so i will give it a try and tell you if that works @ home.

A bientot!

Re: Random rythms in piano roll when recording with midi-pads

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:22 pm
by Sahaathyva
Well I gave it a try and it worked fine.

Setup:
Akai mpd drumpad linked to a carlarack track and in carla the avldrum plugin with a focusrite soundcard running at 1.5ms latency in lmms.

Whats your soundcard?

It may be too much layency on rec or maybe ghost double tap due to the pads?

Re: Random rythms in piano roll when recording with midi-pads

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:53 am
by musikbear
spaceman1980 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:22 am
when I record, it records at the right note but at a completely random rhythm. :: the note will appear nowhere near the timeline marker - it will sometimes even appear before other notes I already played!
I cant explain how your notes ends up before they are played, thats just ...weird
There was a test-version around 1.0, that had next to random note-capture, but i hope you are using official 1.2.1(?)
The apparently of-postion-notes, i can explain.
When you capture notes, you should use 1/192 as Quantification in piano-roll.
If you use a higher value, then the notes will snap-in at 'close' to where you made the event, but it will not be precise. Try 1/192, and if thats not better, then i fear it has to do with the pads, and lmms recognizing the events.
Let us know the outcome :)