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Audio-input > Carla > Audio-output

Posted: May 1st, 2020, 3:24 am
by ektod
Hello, is there a way i can use, for example an EQ through Carla Rack (or Carla Patchbay)?. I cannot find any way to route the audio output from a LMMS plugin to Carla, tried sending channels in the mixer but it didn't work.
do i have to route the audio outside LMMS ( i don't know if this even makes sense, how would i get the audio back in LMMS) or something like that? pls help.

i'm using the ALSA sound architecture, in linux obviously.

PD: Carla Rack/Patchbay works well with instruments that woudn't need audio-input to work

Re: Audio-input > Carla > Audio-output

Posted: May 1st, 2020, 6:22 pm
by musikbear
ektod wrote:
May 1st, 2020, 3:24 am
Hello, is there a way i can use, for example an EQ through Carla Rack (or Carla Patchbay)?. I cannot find any way to route the audio output from a LMMS plugin to Carla, tried sending channels in the mixer but it didn't work.
do i have to route the audio outside LMMS ( i don't know if this even makes sense, how would i get the audio back in LMMS) or something like that? pls help.

i'm using the ALSA sound architecture, in linux obviously.

PD: Carla Rack/Patchbay works well with instruments that woudn't need audio-input to work
if i understand you try to use some levl2 pugin in carla, and have an lmms instrument midi-out go to carla-in where it then goes out
If it does not work that way, then there is either not anything going :
* out from the lmms instrument
* in to carla
Out from carla should be a given, but if it dont out ao in..
It wont work..
I do not know how to test out ao in..

Re: Audio-input > Carla > Audio-output

Posted: May 1st, 2020, 9:37 pm
by ektod
musikbear wrote:
May 1st, 2020, 6:22 pm
ektod wrote:
May 1st, 2020, 3:24 am
Hello, is there a way i can use, for example an EQ through Carla Rack (or Carla Patchbay)?. I cannot find any way to route the audio output from a LMMS plugin to Carla, tried sending channels in the mixer but it didn't work.
do i have to route the audio outside LMMS ( i don't know if this even makes sense, how would i get the audio back in LMMS) or something like that? pls help.

i'm using the ALSA sound architecture, in linux obviously.

PD: Carla Rack/Patchbay works well with instruments that woudn't need audio-input to work
if i understand you try to use some levl2 pugin in carla, and have an lmms instrument midi-out go to carla-in where it then goes out
If it does not work that way, then there is either not anything going :
* out from the lmms instrument
* in to carla
Out from carla should be a given, but if it dont out ao in..
It wont work..
I do not know how to test out ao in..
I think the problem is that Carla cannot host effects inside lmms (or at least apply that effect to a lmms native plugin). I was asking if this is the normal behaviour or am i doing something wrong (what should i do?)
PD: next time i will try with JACK (i will install it to try, i do not use it)

Re: Audio-input > Carla > Audio-output

Posted: May 1st, 2020, 10:50 pm
by Gps
The only thing I can say, maybe its possible with Carla, but that part of Carla is to me still unknown territory.
The patch bay I still need to figure out.

I have Carla installed and managed to load a Linux synth in LMMS through Carla.


On the Linux musician forum there might be a few people who know.
I think there are more Carla users there then on this forum, but most don't use LMMS.

Jack could be a solution, it does have a patch bay, but does LMMS have an input ?

As far as I understand the patching, the program or plugin need to have an in and out .

Re: Audio-input > Carla > Audio-output

Posted: May 1st, 2020, 11:41 pm
by ektod
OK well, im pretty sure Carla is not the problem, there is just no way to use an instrument track to behaviour like an effect plugin (i ask now, is there a way to use, for example an Equalizer through VeSTige?), so probably the problem would be solved if there was a way to add Carla as an effect, in the FX channel of any instrument, or through the mixer.

PD: i don't use VeSTige because i feel wine is too messy in my system.

Re: Audio-input > Carla > Audio-output

Posted: May 2nd, 2020, 2:17 pm
by Gps
I have used easy Q in Vestige.

It works fine, but I do have a problem after an wine update.
Then lmms says it can´t find easy Q.

I then have to browse again to the easy Q dll.

So its possible.

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/easyq_by_rs_met

Re: Audio-input > Carla > Audio-output

Posted: May 2nd, 2020, 8:05 pm
by ektod
Gps wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 2:17 pm
I have used easy Q in Vestige.
How do you get it working? sending channels through the mixer?, i'll add some images to make a clear idea of what is going on
Carla patchbay (connections)
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Carla Rack (there is no audio input in Carla, but i can hear the sound playing in LMMS whitout added effects)
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Mixer (Master<Carla Patchbay<Piano)
Image

Re: Audio-input > Carla > Audio-output

Posted: May 3rd, 2020, 2:03 am
by Gps
I have easy Q working through Vestige, not Carla. :)