My Project crashed the program without much data in it

[chueh]

I had saved the project with only one plug in and only a few notes there to test if it was working. When I opened one of the files in My Project, it crashed the program.

However, if I just load the plug-in without saving it under my project, the plug-in loads very fast. Why can I not save my project with a plug-in with it?

[mrfriendson]

If anyone notices this, yeah I stole the idea from the Mixxx forum but atleast it can give us an idea how to troubleshoot

Please include the following information at minimum:
LMMS build file name you installed: (for example -lmms-1.1.3-win32.exe). (please post the EXACT file name as it tells us specifically what version you are running -- every part is significant!).
System Info (processor, RAM, graphics card, etc. -- provide as much or as little detail as you want)
Windows: version AND service pack -- right-click My Computer and hit Properties. Example: Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1
Windows: 32-bit or 64-bit?
Windows: LMMS 32-bit or 64-bit build? (i.e. which you downloaded above)
Windows: Did the installer succeed?
OSX: Version and Architecture (Intel vs. PPC)
Did LMMS crash on start-up? (If so, how, can you repeat it, what error messages, etc.)
Did LMMS crash after start-up? (If so, how, can you repeat it, what error messages, etc.)

If you don't know what to check for, try answering the following debugging questions:

Did WAV files load and play?
Did FLAC files load and play?
Did OGG files load and play?
Did Software waveforms work?
Any corruption / glitching?

[slipstick]

I think slightly more specific questions might be helpful. E.g.

Does it still crash if you load the project using "Projects/Recently opened projects" at the top of the page ? And what plugin is it ?

Steve

[mrfriendson]

xDD man, too slow for re-editing my post. My bad!

[musikbear]

you use a vst-effect -yes? what happens is what i call the 'chunck-overload' -but i have already written longish around this several times - Eg, you are not the first one :p
Very short: The data that contain the dial-settings in the plugin, are erroneous saved and are enormous ! I mean HUGE
At the moment there is no solution to this issue
This affect ALL blueCat plugins! *sobs*

Project rescue:
https://lmms.io/documentation/Working_with_VSTs
section: "VST related problems"

[chueh]

My computer:
Windows Vista Home Edition Service Pack 1
Pentium Dual Cove E5300@2.6 GHz
3 GB RAM
32 bit operation system

LMMS installed: 1.1.3, 32 bit

Yes, installer succeeded! However, when I read the documentation and tried to follow the instruction to see what synth1 would do, I couldn't install it, because it said that the set up information was not found. It added that if I had the file reg2ini, ran it as administrator to execute it, which I DID. Nonetheless, still failed.

LMMS never crashes on start-up, but does each time for sure when I click on Projects/Recently Opened project! Although I did not use anything that's associated with VST plug-in, the project was saved with the plug-in there.

I had not used any waveform or midi yet. Thus, I was trying to see if I could as Mrfriendson suggested now by import a mid file, yet LMMS warned me that I did not have the specified plug-in which was not manufactured installed already. Anyhow, I just couldn't hear the sound, yet I could see that it was working. Also, I did save this midi file as a project. I closed the LMMS entirely and reopened it to see if I could open this project up. It did, yet it just said that the plug-in couldn't be loaded, which I understood. After all, I don't have the plug-in installed. So....... it seems that MY external VST plug-in in LMMS is the cause for crashing the program.....

I just saved a project successfully by using only the factory preset sound. I could export it successfully to a wav file too. BTW, how do I export a midi file. Because if my own external vst won't work with LMMS, I am thinking to create music in LMMS by using whatever the sounds factory installed and import the midi file to my VST program which can be a standalone. I can change the sounds to the bank there.

[musikbear]

Im a little confused

Although I did not use anything that's associated with VST plug-in, the project was saved with the plug-in there.

So there is NO vst dll inside the crash-project? Only native lmms instruments, and effects?

now by import a mid file, yet LMMS warned me that I did not have the specified plug-in which was not manufactured installed already

lmms does not need any speciel plugin for midi-note playback -All instruments can be used

BTW, how do I export a midi file.

That feature is still not implemented, so you cant.

If i understand you, you have already rescued the project in full? But there is something wrong, when you try to save with one specific instrument??
Witch instrument is that?

[chueh]

Yes, I know. I easily make people confused

Although I did not use anything that's associated with VST plug-in, the project was saved with the plug-in there.

So there is NO vst dll inside the crash-project? Only native lmms instruments, and effects?

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What I meant was that I did not add any data, note, or change any setting that associated with VST plug-in in LMMS, but I only loaded Aria Player plug-in in LMMS and saved one sounds from Aria Player into LMMS preset. That's all I did and saved it as a project. Then, it's never rescued but always crashed the program when I tried opening the project.

now by import a mid file, yet LMMS warned me that I did not have the specified plug-in which was not manufactured installed already

lmms does not need any speciel plugin for midi-note playback -All instruments can be used

LMMS warned me that I did not have a "Soundfont," so it wouldn't play back. OK, now you said that LMMS does not need any special plugin for midi playback; I understand that. However, combining what you and LMMS said, I should have been able to hear all tracks, except that of the Soundfont. Any thought how it might have gone wrong without any sound playback at all???

[musikbear]

loaded Aria Player plug-in in LMMS and saved one sounds from Aria Player into LMMS preset.

Oki! Aria i believe someone else had problems with, so its no good in lmms :/ sorry

LMMS warned me that I did not have a "Soundfont," so it wouldn't play back. OK, now you said that LMMS does not need any special plugin for midi playback;

Yes - at least i hope i remember this correctly.. You DO have notes imported right?
Eg inside song-editor, you have a block with all the midi-notes, like:

Then just drag any instrument in at that track, notes should play..

(Here
http://www.schristiancollins.com/generaluser.php
is btw the soundfont most like as default soundfont)

Then, it's never rescued but always crashed the program when I tried opening the project.

solution :
https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Wo ... d_problems
Let me know if you fixed it :)

[chueh]

LMMS warned me that I did not have a "Soundfont," so it wouldn't play back. OK, now you said that LMMS does not need any special plugin for midi playback;

Eg inside song-editor, you have a block with all the midi-notes, like:

Then just drag any instrument in at that track, notes should play..

I dragged an internal instrument to replace the soundfont track. It does play back.

Then, it's never rescued but always crashed the program when I tried opening the project.

solution :
https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Wo ... d_problems
Let me know if you fixed it

Yes, I temporarily move the dll file to somewhere else, it did rescue my project. Thanks