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How to set a delay of -50ms on a track?

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:22 pm
by udit
I am using Ample Guitar M II Lite VST and it asks me to set a delay of -50ms for playback/exporting purposes. How do I go about doing that in LMMS? I searched a bit but all the search results are about a "Delay" effect which produces a echo.

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Re: How to set a delay of -50ms on a track?

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:42 pm
by Monospace
Move all TCOs on the guitar thing a few ticks back. Select all TCOs on the track, and while holding ctrl pull them just a little back. Should do the trick. If a TCO in guitar thing starts at the same time as entire track, move the entire track one bar ahead then moved the TCOs backwards a bit. What is your BPM?

Re: How to set a delay of -50ms on a track?

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:25 pm
by udit
It's 150 BPM. When I try to ctrl+move, each bar has 190 divisions though. How to interpret that?

Re: How to set a delay of -50ms on a track?

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:35 pm
by Monospace
1000 ms to a sec. 150 ms = 150/1000 = 3/20 of a second. 150 bpm means 150/60 bps = 5/2 beats per second. 2.5 beats per second.
Therefore, 3/20 of a second = 3/20 * 2/5 of a beat = 3/100 of a beat.
190 divisions = 1 beat. 3/100 of beat = 3/100*190 divisions = 57/10 divisions = 5.7 ticks.

Therefore, move your segments about 6 ticks backwards if you want as close to 50 ms as possible. 5 ticks if you're feeling whimsical, 4 if you're feeling daring, 3 if you're feeling arrogant.
Do make sure you move them backward and not forward!!

Re: How to set a delay of -50ms on a track?

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:58 pm
by udit
Something seems off in the calculations. Probably because 190 divisions in bar = 4 beats, and not 1 beat? Even then something is wrong.

So I zoomed in max then moved the arrowhead backwards by 50ms, then moved the TCO to arrowhead and the new position comes out to be 4 divisions backwards. Also, it's a bummer that we can't use drag+ctrl (Edit mode) to move multiple TCOs granularly. It will only snap to bars. You need to switch to draw mode to move granularly but that only moves one TCO at a time even if multiple are selected!

Re: How to set a delay of -50ms on a track?

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:18 am
by Monospace
My mistake. 190 divisions = 1 bar. I keep mixing up the terms.
Also, is also my mistake. 192 divisions, not 190. Dragging to 186 will be moving it 6 divisions backwards, ie 50 ms.
For multiple TCOs, use Alt-Drag. Drag-alt moves all TCOs by unquantized.

Re: How to set a delay of -50ms on a track?

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:31 am
by udit
For multiple TCOs, use Alt-Drag. Drag-alt moves all TCOs by unquantized.
Thanks! That did the job