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Posted: **Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:44 am**

Hi, i am having a problem with cloning tracks of rhythm/bass.

I do a clone and modify the instrument in the cloned track, then i realize that the origlinal track also have been modify

, is that a bug, is the intended functionality or there is a option some where that i miss to make the clone independent from the original.

Im using Lmms 1.2.2 in debian sid.

Posted: **Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:32 pm**

Strapicarus wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:44 am
cloning tracks of rhythm/bass::
origlinal track also have been modify :? , is that a bug,

If that happens, then it is definitively a bug -I cant reproduce.

Im using Lmms 1.2.2 in debian sid.

Is it the AppImage?
If not please dl
https://lmms.io/download#linux
and install the AppImage instead of the current install
DO BACKUP!!!

Posted: **Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:03 pm**

Hi, i have downloaded the appimage 1.2.2 from the link and have the same bug.

To reproduce.

1. push Add rhythm/bass button.
2. At editor do some pattern.
3. Clone the rhythm/bass.
4. Open the instrument and edit something, the envelop, length, etc.
or just
4. Add new instrument to the track.

Compare the sound in the sound of the original rhythm/bass with the clone rhythm/bass, they should be exactly the same, or compare that the original also have a new intrument.

I have tested with the default kicker when rhythm/bass added, also i have delete the defalt and added a bitinvader and/or tripleoscilator.

Posted: **Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:44 pm**

Strapicarus wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:03 pm
To reproduce.
1. push Add rhythm/bass button.
2. At editor do some pattern.
3. Clone the rhythm/bass.
4. Open the instrument and edit something, the envelop, length, etc.
or just
5. Add new instrument to the track.

Compare the sound in the sound of the original rhythm/bass with the clone rhythm/bass, they should be exactly the same,

No!
If you do as you write in the bullet-list, then the two instruments are different from each other!
You clone (3) before you make changes (4).
A Cloned instrument is a copy of the orr. one, but it is only identical until you make an edit of either the orr. or the clone.
After that edit, they are not identical.
Did you explain it wrongly in your list?

As you can see in this picture neither the pattern in Pattern-editor, nor the GUI-settings (Gain etc) are identical in the orr Kicker compared with the edited clone

I am a bit confused because i thought you wanted two variations of one instrument, because you orr. wrote:

I do a clone and modify the instrument in the cloned track, then :: the origlinal track also have been modify

Eg you clone, make an edit in the clone, and then the orr instrument is ALSO edited, even though you have NOT touched it

Witch is it?

Posted: **Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:21 pm**

Thanks for following my issue, im now i bit confused to, i can tell what i expect when i clone the track from the main editor not the rhythm/bass editor (i think here is the confusion), of course i use the rhythm/bass editor when i want to edit the cloned track.

1. The original and the cloned are exactly the same in the main editor, (work as expected).
2. I can edit the cloned track in any way without affecting the original. (Not working as expected).

This also made me think, maybe i can not have 2 rhythm/bass tracks in the main editor?

Posted: **Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:16 pm**

Ok i have tried to do that, and i just cant reproduce
I wish i understood what it is you have done..
Can you save the project as MMP and upload it, then give me the link, either as PM if you dont want all to see your work, or just here?

Posted: **Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:37 am**

musikbear wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:44 pm

Strapicarus wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:03 pm
To reproduce.
1. push Add rhythm/bass button.
2. At editor do some pattern.
3. Clone the rhythm/bass.
4. Open the instrument and edit something, the envelop, length, etc.
or just
5. Add new instrument to the track.

Compare the sound in the sound of the original rhythm/bass with the clone rhythm/bass, they should be exactly the same,
It seems like you're encountering a situation where cloning tracks in LMMS (Linux MultiMedia Studio) is not creating independent copies, and modifications made to one track affect the other. This behavior is not typical and suggests there might be a bug or an unintended setting causing this issue. In LMMS, when you clone a track, it should create a separate instance that you can modify independently of the original. Check if there are any settings related to track cloning or project settings that might affect this. Additionally, ensure you are using the latest version of LMMS and consider reporting this behavior to the LMMS community or checking their forums for similar issues and solutions. By the way, if you are looking for someone who will do your homework then I will recommend you visit https://academized.com/do-my-homework here where you will find essay writer easily who will do your homework. That platform is dedicated to continuous improvement. Feedback from users is actively sought and used to enhance the quality of services, ensuring that the platform remains responsive to the needs of students.
No!
If you do as you write in the bullet-list, then the two instruments are different from each other!
You clone (3) before you make changes (4).
A Cloned instrument is a copy of the orr. one, but it is only identical until you make an edit of either the orr. or the clone.
After that edit, they are not identical.
Did you explain it wrongly in your list?

As you can see in this picture neither the pattern in Pattern-editor, nor the GUI-settings (Gain etc) are identical in the orr Kicker compared with the edited clone

I am a bit confused because i thought you wanted two variations of one instrument, because you orr. wrote:

I do a clone and modify the instrument in the cloned track, then :: the origlinal track also have been modify

Eg you clone, make an edit in the clone, and then the orr instrument is ALSO edited, even though you have NOT touched it

Witch is it?

Thank you for answering, that helps a lot.

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