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Changing pattern (base/beat) length

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:53 pm
by manday
The pattern/base/beat editor:

If I see it right, the only (or intendend, for that matter) way to change the length of a pattern is right click the instrument and choose "add ... steps" from the context menu. But that, just as "remove ... steps" behaves strangely:

Adding steps only adds them on one of the instruments and distorts the beat-line, so that the instrument's beat-line to which I added the steps (what's the point of adding steps on a per instrument basis, anyway?) has more beats than the others and therefore no longer lines up.

And once I filled up all instruments to have the same beat-length, I cannot shorten it again. When I then "remove ... steps" on one of the instruments, the beats still line up (as oppossed to adding steps), but even if I remove the steps on all instruments, the pattern will not shorten.

Given what an incredible software LMMS is, I wonder whether I'm maybe using a deprecated feature and the beat-editor is supposed to be operated differently these days? It seems pretty poor quality compared to the rest of LMMS, given alone how the beatline distorts.

Re: Changing pattern (base/beat) length

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:21 pm
by musikbear
Given what an incredible software LMMS is, I wonder whether I'm maybe using a deprecated feature and the beat-editor is supposed to be operated differently these days?
mmm.. nee.. :D
you are correct, and the glitch is in 'pendling' mode, but real bugs has priority.
-will propl be addressed when the more severe time-signature pattern distortion is focused.

Br.

Re: Changing pattern (base/beat) length

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:24 pm
by manday
Sounds good to me. If you have time, would you please comment on this

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=d ... tid=640435

and perhaps on how I can reset a timeframe in the automation editor? Looks like once I touched the automation track there is no way to "null-out" (meaning abandoning the changes one made) the track again, other than tediously reseting every beat to 0?

Re: Changing pattern (base/beat) length

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:50 pm
by musikbear
Using the detune/portamento tool in the piano roll does not display the pitch correction in the piano roll as it's supposed to (yellow dots, according to the documentation).
Unfortunately the editor is a little sensitive.. or it has an attitude :p
You need to tinkle a little inside the envelope to get the yellow dots to apear
in the automation editor
first you need to set the Q at 1/1
then draw a line -this is a dummy..
then you need to set the Q at 1/64
then draw the actual line you want to use
Now you will see the dots
but if you try to detune quite short notes, then the yellow dots are spaced too far apart for you to see any of them

Does that work for you?

Br.

Re: Changing pattern (base/beat) length

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:24 pm
by manday
Yes, that works well as you described it. Needless to say it's a little tedious ;P Thank you!