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.. :) well not really really an 'easter-egg' but it is darn close..
I think this is more than a tutorial, because it is more a kind of a discovery, than instruction in feature usage, but at the same time, it is indeed that too.
Im actually exited :P
https://youtu.be/cCTaCs_8j2M

Wooah!
What a find.
This is a really interesting discovery.
This vid has got me thinking.

I got a good idea too from watching it too.
Maybe if possible, the Lmms crew, could probably implement an internal Tempo meter in the sample track,
and Audio file processor, for individual samples.
That could help alot and solve alot of sample problems, where certain 1st or 3rd party samples, are recorded or renderred at a slower or faster Tempo.

I know that coding this kinda stuff isn't easy. Especially when it comes to music and game related stuff etc.
I gotta thank Unity for that. Lol!

An easter egg, found during the easter holidays. Lol!
Nice find Mr. bear.

Also:
Happy Easter to everyone.

Happy Easter musikbear and everyone. That's a great find and a neat way of finding the right BPM. But I wish I'd realised that people didn't already know it...that's how I've been using sample track almost since I started.

I'm not good at percussion and have some downloaded loops (mainly Indian/Bhangra) that I use quite a bit. It helps that they nearly all include the BPM in the name e.g. Dhol-loop1-110.wav runs at 110BPM so you quickly work out that the project has to be running at the right BPM. It would probably help people to understand this if the LMMS loop/beat samples included their BPM in the names too.

Once you get into this you can also use Audacity or a similar editor to change the tempo of a sample loop to a different BPM value, within reason. I do that when I find two loops I want to use in a song but they're at different tempos. Some of my favourite loops I now have in 5 or 6 different BPM values so I can fit them together.

It feels a bit like cheating but it's a lot easier than learning to play percussion properly.

Steve

brandystarbrite wrote:Wooah!
An easter egg, found during the easter holidays. Lol!

well -a kind-of-easteregg- :p

slipstick wrote:that's how I've been using sample track almost since I started.

Hehe.. It always been the 'track for vocal or other looong wavefiles'
I understood Sampletrack as a complementary container for AFP, where AFP could hold and process short files, Sampletrack could hold several minutes of recording.

slipstick wrote: help people to understand this if the LMMS loop/beat samples included their BPM in the names too.

True!

slipstick wrote: Once you get into this you can also use Audacity or a similar editor to change the tempo of a sample loop to a different BPM value, within reason.

I think a tutorial on how to do that could be very useful. I have not used audacity' 'smart-functions' at all, i have just made very meagre recordings.

I have dappled a bit with this new find, and i still get more and more impressed. Sampletrack will actually remove silence from a badly created clip, exactly when the sample has the fitting BPM! It simply just snap to the Bar-devider at the exact BPM that should be used! At the same time the silence is out of the sample! You need to scroll the tempo UP from a wrong low value, to see this snap
all is not roses. There are risks of crashing, but wheater thats from PR or excessive usage of samples, i do not know yet.

musikbear wrote:Hehe.. It always been the 'track for vocal or other looong wavefiles'
I understood Sampletrack as a complementary container for AFP, where AFP could hold and process short files, Sampletrack could hold several minutes of recording.

That's where ignorance can help . When I started I thought that AFP was just for using single note samples as instruments and Sampletrack was for anything longer like vocal tracks as you say but also loops. So I just carried on playing with it until I persuaded it to do something useful.

musikbear wrote: I think a tutorial on how to do that could be very useful. I have not used audacity' 'smart-functions' at all, i have just made very meagre recordings.

I'll try to write up a simple tut on beats/loops and using Audacity to change and correct them (e.g. Audacity can also easily remove any unwanted silence in a loop or track). I'm a fan of Audacity, mainly for the sort of editing I used to do with a razor blade and sticky tape in the good old days, but I'm concious that this is the LMMS forum so I don't want to go overboard.

BTW just for interest, as many percussion loops are two bars (8 beats) long you can get a quick estimate of the BPM by dividing 480 by the sample length in seconds. So a 4 sec loop is likely to be at 120BPM, a 3.2 second loop 150BPM etc. It gives you a starting point.

Steve

slipstick wrote: you can get a quick estimate of the BPM by dividing 480 by the sample length in seconds. So a 4 sec loop is likely to be at 120BPM, a 3.2 second loop 150BPM etc. It gives you a starting point.

That a good rule of thumb! Nice one Steve!