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Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:17 am**

Hi all, I'm Ronaldo Rodriguez and I am from Venezuela, wanted to show a theme I made using LMMS 1.1.3.

The kick, snare, hat Hit (DRUM), Bass, Effects, Melodies and all are sounds I believe, most using TripleOxcillator, use a "Present" that surely already know which is the Erazord.

https://soundcloud.com/asakuradespisesk ... iginal-mix

I would like to help me create "Present" with powerful sounds like the "Present" Erazord.

Any advice or recommendation to create sounds and melodies Powerful using either the TripleOxcillator, Kiker, Zynaddsubfx or some plugins?

Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:54 am**

All I could say, is that you're definitely on to something.

And that you have a very good understanding of Trance music.
Congrats.

Throughout the entire track, you didn't stray away from what trance music is, which is very good.

And that is one of the secrets of making trance music and making an awesome trance music track.
It also shows, that you have a good understanding about this genre.

Even though it sounds very good, a good bit of improvement, is needed in this track though.
There is so much I could say, but it is too difficult to write in words.

I'll take my time and listen to your music track again and see what advice I could give you.
I'll be back dude.

Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:35 am**

brandystarbrite wrote:All I could say, is that you're definitely on to something.
And that you have a very good understanding of Trance music.
Congrats.

Throughout the entire track, you didn't stray away from what trance music is, which is very good.
And that is one of the secrets of making trance music and making an awesome trance music track.
It also shows, that you have a good understanding about this genre.

Even though it sounds very good, a good bit of improvement, is needed in this track though.
There is so much I could say, but it is too difficult to write in words.

I'll take my time and listen to your music track again and see what advice I could give you.
I'll be back dude.

¡¡Gracias por todo!! / Thanks for everything!!

Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:38 am**

Erothynomus wrote: Any advice or recommendation to create sounds and melodies Powerful using either the TripleOxcillator, Kiker, Zynaddsubfx or some plugins?

Here:
https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Wo ... Instrument
the basis of the various settings are explained.
And here:
https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Ma ... or_Patches
making a preset is explained for TripleOxcillator

I have made a tutorial for a string preset, but also explains preset-building in general terms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hmJYW14JpU

and also here is how to enhance existing presets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mFHDyWGh9c

Theres also many tutorial on how to 'program' inside zynAddSubFX
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIfZfd ... vp6C8XAJUw

Your track is supergood! You obviously have a lot of experience with DAW musicmaking, and a great understanding of trance! -You do have clips, though, and that pushes some of the sounds down -i Marked one such place. You do use the mixer, so all is in own channels- right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuT_Ok6o5Dc

Super piece!

Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:07 am**

musikbear wrote:
Erothynomus wrote: Any advice or recommendation to create sounds and melodies Powerful using either the TripleOxcillator, Kiker, Zynaddsubfx or some plugins?
Here:
https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Wo ... Instrument
the basis of the various settings are explained.
And here:
https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Ma ... or_Patches
making a preset is explained for TripleOxcillator

I have made a tutorial for a string preset, but also explains preset-building in general terms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hmJYW14JpU

and also here is how to enhance existing presets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mFHDyWGh9c

Theres also many tutorial on how to 'program' inside zynAddSubFX
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIfZfd ... vp6C8XAJUw

Your track is supergood! You obviously have a lot of experience with DAW musicmaking, and a great understanding of trance! -You do have clips, though, and that pushes some of the sounds down -i Marked one such place. You do use the mixer, so all is in own channels- right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuT_Ok6o5Dc

Super piece!

I recognize that there are sounds that pull the whole issue down, but slowly I'm getting better to avoid that.

I've been using the LMMS since 2014.

I think I neglected some sounds that I kept concentrated on perfecting the bass. The kick and had previously created using Kicker and Tripleoxcillator and had exported for later use as a sample.

Everything I did in different channels and as he had said before, do not use library in the least of lmms, everything is plugins directly.

use a limiter, I think that helped control some sounds.

Not know how to answer your question because I did not understand very well, but thanks for your help.

Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:15 am**

musikbear wrote:
Erothynomus wrote: Any advice or recommendation to create sounds and melodies Powerful using either the TripleOxcillator, Kiker, Zynaddsubfx or some plugins?
Here:
https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Wo ... Instrument
the basis of the various settings are explained.
And here:
https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Ma ... or_Patches
making a preset is explained for TripleOxcillator

I have made a tutorial for a string preset, but also explains preset-building in general terms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hmJYW14JpU

and also here is how to enhance existing presets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mFHDyWGh9c

Theres also many tutorial on how to 'program' inside zynAddSubFX
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIfZfd ... vp6C8XAJUw

Your track is supergood! You obviously have a lot of experience with DAW musicmaking, and a great understanding of trance! -You do have clips, though, and that pushes some of the sounds down -i Marked one such place. You do use the mixer, so all is in own channels- right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuT_Ok6o5Dc

Super piece!

And what could you recommend to improve my Psytrance?

https://soundcloud.com/asakuradespisesk ... iginal-mix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM0-DwXSWCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxcChj1Oh7w

Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:49 pm**

I like it. It does make me wonder what the difference between house and Trance is.

Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:43 pm**

Gps wrote:I like it. It does make me wonder what the difference between house and Trance is.

the main thing is speed, then the structure and finally the sondios.
trance arpeggios uses mientars the House uses powerful "Present" and deep bass.

Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:44 pm**

Erothynomus wrote:
Gps wrote:I like it. It does make me wonder what the difference between house and Trance is.

the most important is the speed, then the structure and finally sounds.
trance arpeggios used while the house used by powerful "Present" and deep bass.

Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:51 pm**

Erothynomus wrote: And what could you recommend to improve my Psytrance?

Really cant say, it is not a genre im all that familiar with.

Gps wrote:It does make me wonder what the difference between house and Trance is.

Yes BPM > 130 -> 180 and you also have extensive sidechaining in house, that is rare in trance. House is most often more melodic 'happier', trance is 'darker' Even uplifting trance is mostly minor in scale
House quite often has 7' jazzy notes, and typical pluck-chords, also quite rare in trance
In general House is closer to jazz, also in usage on instruments

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