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Greyed-out record-buttons, Why?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 9:15 pm
by matcat
Hi, I'm just starting with lmms (ver. 1.1.3) and try to set it up.

In the song-editor I found two record-buttons, as known from audacity.
The tooltips say:
'Record samples from Audio-device' and
'Record samples from Audio-device while playing song or BB track'

Unfortunately they are greyed-out and don't do anything either.

Audacity does record from my audio-device.

What's going wrong here?

Regards

Re: Greyed-out record-buttons, Why?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 12:33 am
by brandystarbrite
matcat wrote:Hi, I'm just starting with lmms (ver. 1.1.3) and try to set it up.
Unfortunately they are greyed-out and don't do anything either.

What's going wrong here?

Regards
Hi matcat.
Welcome to the Lmms Forums. 8-)

Those two greyed out record buttons, are non functional for now.
If hopefully, in a later update, they are not greyed out, that would most likely mean, that they are working well in Lmms. :)

Re: Greyed-out record-buttons, Why?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 5:49 am
by matcat
What a pity.

Are there experiences how to work around this?

Run lmms and Audacity in parallel maybe?
And then dragging the resulting audiotrack from audacity to the lmms window?

The tedious export/import procedures would be the problem, as I work with children.

Thanks for the answer(s)!

Re: Greyed-out record-buttons, Why?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 10:16 am
by musikbear
matcat wrote:Hi, I'm just starting with lmms (ver. 1.1.3) and try to set it up.
Welcome to the forum matcat! First, For you all important links:
http://lmms.io/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4740

Yes the buttons are without function, and they are btw removed from next version.
You are talking about using audacity and lmms, what is it you are trying to do with both programs, exactly ?

I would be very interested in getting some kind of review from you as a teacher, in respect to how the childrens usage of lmms
Do they find lmms confusing or intuitively understandable?
Where are the learning curve steepest?

If you in a month or so, eg after intensive usage in class, could give us a heads up on these things, it could help the project.

Tyia :)

Re: Greyed-out record-buttons, Why?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 3:25 pm
by matcat
musikbear wrote: Yes the buttons are without function, and they are btw removed from next version.
That's sad. Are you giving up in making lmms a DAW?
musikbear wrote: You are talking about using audacity and lmms, what is it you are trying to do with both programs, exactly ?
Well, use them like a DAW:
Recording sound in sync with instruments and other already recorded sounds.
Editing, rearranging, mastering + exporting a combined sonic result of everything.
The soundrecording part seems to be Audacity's.
The question is, which would be an elegant workflow of interplay between both of them.
musikbear wrote: I would be very interested in getting some kind of review from you as a teacher, in respect to how the childrens usage of lmms
I'm not a teacher, but I'm giving audioart-workshops to children, mostly teenies, at schools once in a while. At the moment I'm planning new ideas, so am having a look at lmms, as it's CPU-lightweight (think of dusty schoolcomputers) and freely available: Every child can go home with it's work and continue if it wants (as long there is at least a computer), or start off to other own ideas. There's no money-barrier, with the portable version no installation-hassle. I simply tell them: Copy ->this directory and you are ready to go on, wherever you are. Great.
musikbear wrote: Do they find lmms confusing or intuitively understandable?
Where are the learning curve steepest?
If you in a month or so, eg after intensive usage in class ...
This will take longer in my case. Before standing among children I need an excellent idea and some good practice with lmms myself, so I can give a good advice concerning the howto (integrate soundrecording (Audacity) and instrument&sounddata-playback (lmms) most smoothly)!
And that's what for I'm looking here too.
So I appreciate every help with hints to my questions.
Isn't there anybody experienced with this?
Recording a strummed guitar to a rhythm-track and getting good timing, the easiest way?

Best regards