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My BB Editor (Linux 1.2 RC8 AppImage) is behaving strangely.

My project is in 5/4 time. I picked that not because I was thinking about it, but it turned out that the melody I was working lined up nicely in that time-signature. Start of the phrase at the start of a bar.

In the BB Editor some of the instruments are 4 steps per 1/5 of a bar, while others are 8 steps over the same distance. I don't know if it's something I did that caused that, but I can't find a way to undo it.

And as I was double checking this to write this post, I've realized something: it's playing the different timings at the same speed: the 8 step tracks are playing at half the speed of the 4-step tracks. As a result, trying to "line things up" doesn't work between the two timings. I've been staring at that for ages trying to figure out what was going on...

Maybe I "added more steps" and put notes out at the end, so that when I "removed steps" later on it compressed them? But I just did an experiment, and removing steps deletes anything "off the end" (to my dismay).

How can I fix this? I feel like I'm missing something obvious... Aaaand I've posted it in the wrong topic. Sigh.

Aaaand I've posted it in the wrong topic. Sigh.

well compared to the rest, movind topic is a breeeeece ..
'rest' ...is not :|

In the BB Editor some of the instruments are 4 steps per 1/5 of a bar, while others are 8 steps over the same distance. I don't know if it's something I did that caused that, but I can't find a way to undo it.

Firstly ..Hope i understand your issue, but
There cant be a different timing only in BBe!
LMMS only have one timing, and that is the BPM gadget. That is for everything!
But
'Timing' is relative! (helllloooo Mr Einstein....... :)
Some times you like to find a BPM for i song, so you TAB the rhythm, and count the hits of the kick.
Default LMMS has 140 BPM, and that is a very common BPM in EDM
Now suppose the song only set kick on 1 and 3 beat!
Now if you count, you will get the result '70'
It will appear like the song is at 70 BPM!
Just as your:

Failte200 wrote: ↑

Tue May 28, 2019 2:02 pm

the 8 step tracks are playing at half the speed of the 4-step tracks.

No it is not playING in half speed, it sounds like it!

That is actually going to be your challenge!
You need to find positions for percussion-notes (in piano-roll), where the percussion still 'fits' the changes

Thats is going to be fiddly ...

Failte200 wrote: ↑

Tue May 28, 2019 2:02 pm

it's playing the different timings at the same speed: the 8 step tracks are playing at half the speed of the 4-step tracks.

I'll upload an image when I get home (at work now) (in fact, I'll upload the whole WiP song in the Sharing section). But here's what happens. Upon PLAY I hear the sounds of the 4-step instruments, and the first half of the 8-step instruments. Once the 4-step instruments come to an end, it continues to play the last half of the 8-step instruments only, and THEN loops. Had me totes confused trying to figure that out... To quote Urkle, "Did I do thaaat?"

I want to say "4-steps per beat" and "8 steps per beat" but not sure of my nomenclature. The point is that the 8-step squares are half the visual size of the 4-step squares.

I'm using the BB editor basically just to get more familiar with it - at least it can show more than one instrument at a time. Making a multi-instrument Beat track with the Piano Roll seems... like it'd be difficult (involving a lot of beat-counting and flipping back and forth between the different Piano Rolls.

Contrary to the sage advice in the tutorial, I do not start a beat knowing exactly what I want it to sound like... I modify it until I like it, usually by playing it along with the rest of the song. IANAM - I am not a Mozart. I am not even a Musician, by most definitions. But *I* really like the songs I've made. That's all that counts for me.

It just occurred to me that I could zoom up the Song Editor and kinda maybe use that to see how different tracks relate... I'll try that when I get home.

Well can't log in to Sharing. But here's a screen shot. See the different sized steps? Is this a Feature or a Bug?



That... doesn't look like an image to me... sigh. Ohwell.

Failte200 wrote: ↑

Wed May 29, 2019 7:24 am

Well can't log in to Sharing.

You can post it on http://www.tinyupload.com/, then just send me the link or post it here publicly

That... doesn't look like an image to m

No -read here
http://lmms.io/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4740
How to post screenshots