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by Ryszard Zrybnicki (rysiek)
Size: 856 KB
License: Creative Commons (by)
LMMS Version: 1.1.3
Submitted: 2017-04-10 12:14:55
Updated: 2017-04-10 12:14:55
Popularity:  1202   5
Rating:    20
Name: Chopin-GrandeValceBrillante-Synth.mmp  Download
Description:

It uses original notes from Frederic Chopin - Grande Valse Brillante E flat Major
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande_valse_brillante_in_E-flat_major_(Chopin)
It is romantic piano classical music

The project is experimental to use automation script to simulate
expression of piano playing.
It uses only base sound synthesis.
Anyway it would need a lot of work more to do it right.

Do not miss to hear the original professional piano player on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcNJaGaqhJA (Lang, Lang very expressive)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laSh3D_77ZM (Rubinstein, probably the most similar to original Chopin play)

Comments:
Hi @rusiek "Anyway it would need a lot of work more to do it right. " I agree Why not use sf2 or RC2 GIG real sound piano and other? As much a set/adjustment Triple.... .... :) Or you interesting the challenge? Posted by: gdd71  on 2017-04-10 16:19:08
5* for the master of Triple Oscillator proving gdd71 wrong that Triple Oscillator sounds are bad.! For my part I always try to recreate a synth with Triple Oscillator first and only switch to ZynAddSubFX when I fail! Using ZynAddSubFX for everything is just taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut!!! Posted by: Peter F  on 2017-04-10 17:03:38
It was my experiment to explore limits of computer music I and choose Chopin because where hardly more emotional classical music. I have noticed some time ago that the the sound itself is not essential for feeling but the small changes and variations, little mistakes. The first step was to vary the note velocity and make some displacement. I have changed the synth parameters all the time and try adjust them to melody. It most challenging part is changing tempo and rubato (time displacement in one bar) because you need a lot of time to make it good. This needs also fit the melody and it is not so repetitive as swing (groove). And you should not use copy and paste at all. The main reason for not using samples is that the one note sounds great but it sound every time same. The real piano player can generate more than 20 different sounds and vary them continuously. Also for synthesized sound you can vary all parameters (filter, reverb, qfactor) but it is hard to edit all this stuff right. For me changing/living synthesized sounds is more interesting than sampled one. Anyway It would be interesting to see how it be done differently. It can be idea for the challenge. So feel free to rework it or restart new. The another idea was to use the expression tools of synth/techno sound (filter, effects) on classical music and combine this. Currently I have the impression that I could work on this for years. ZynAddSubFx is great I need still time to learn it. Posted by: rysiek  on 2017-04-10 18:13:37
"Triple Oscillator proving gdd71 wrong that Triple Oscillator sounds are bad" .. Wow! :) Triple Oscillator sounds are bad very much! Even the heaviest heavy metal guitar sound more bearable and pleasant to the ear. as I mentioned Triple it only for light supplement but not for main instrument! It is too simple sound and the brain immediately starts screaming that something was wrong. for, brain such sound is incomprehensible and unnatural, lacks many important harmonics and combinations and this is repulsive. "ZynAddSubFx is great I need still time to learn it." .. keep on :) I am sure you will do something really very good electronic-classic with your skills and experience. be happy Posted by: gdd71  on 2017-04-10 19:15:26
Hi, I was wondering where i could get the SGM-V2 sf2 file. Thanks if you can point me in the right direction! Posted by: FlStudiorival  on 2018-01-31 22:04:28