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by Peter F (Peter F)
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Submitted: 2016-10-02 12:07:34
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As I already promised last week here comes my finished and remixed version of "Obywatel GC - Nie pytaj o PolskÄ™", which was originally done by Mr Sislak in project

The instrument changes were welcome. But I prefer the original melody. .~. It was nice, tho.x3Posted by: Yure on 2016-10-02 15:10:51
This may not be as original, but I like more.Posted by: gdd71 on 2016-10-02 22:17:31
Hm, my attempt was to get closer to the original: by: Peter F on 2016-10-02 23:01:10
I am quite impressed by your work. It seems that you makes almost all from begin.
It was huge work. The finishing part is perfect. Also using the oboe as voice replacement
and piano sample was good choose. "Vibed" instrument for guitar sounds good. I never used it by myself.
You are quite good in covering guitars. Some melodies are more accurate to original than my version.

Many things are better than my version but I think some are better in mine or could be still
improved. Piano is not so present as it should be. The problem could be the effects.
One trick is to use "stereo wide" effect (hass effect). Or it could be that it is overplayed by
choir. In classical composition one should avoid duplicate same note by different instruments.
So if piano is playing E you can remove E note from pad. This way the piano will be better audible.
I have also noticed that all notes have same velocity and are "legato".
I play piano (keyboard) and if I record my session I never get same velocity. Usually the notes
have accent on 1 and 3 on beats (depending on style), getting louder by begging of phrase (and so one), comes in waves.
Velocity is a powerful tool. To accent something means to make the note a little louder.
The same about not setting all notes legato (connected), staccato
or making them longer (simulate sustain press). If you have keyboard try to play some pattern with midi record.

The bass section is at the beginning different than original (and for me not so good, was it intended?) but
in refrain it is better than my approach and perfect match.
I miss also the subtle strings at the beginning.
The saxophone solo is better than I thought it could be possible but still far away from original power and
sounds still cheap (digital). But anyway the best I have ever heard in lmms project yet.
Perhaps some different instrument or effects.
I think that main original idea of the song was to use at the beginning very computer like stylistics and introduce
successive real instruments like guitar and the high point is saxophone solo.
Bass and drums sound like computer game music and it is contrast to voice, guitar and saxophone.
It is quite difficult to reproduce/cover this.

I wonder why do you not using mix panel. Its usage is encouraged by many tutorials and for me
ideal to get final polish. I have wondered about eq after reverb. But I am not sure about it.
I miss reverb on some instruments. Reverb effect simulates the room so why not use reverb on many instrument together.
This can be made easy in mixer by using the channel redirect (send button).
The original have a lot strong reverb especially on drums.
I think that in general your music could sound much better with some simple cheap default effects.

Perhaps it is also a problem for lmms software that the main audio effects are hidden between another one and not easy to set up.
In Ableton DAV the reverb and delay effect are set as default send channel from the project start. Why not set up the mixer this way in empty project?

Thank you for this another cover. It is so exiting to analyze it and hear it. I will also play with it a little.Posted by: msislak on 2016-10-02 23:18:47
Thanks a lot for your detailed review! You're right, I don't care a lot about the final polish of the mix. I mainly focus on getting the right notes, chords and rhythms and finding the sounds which are as close as possible to the original. And yes, I only use effects when they have a significant impact on the sound. In my opinion the guitar is not as present as it should be, but this is the different perception of a piano player and a guitarist :-) Actually I cannot find anything wrong on the bass but take from this remix what fits for you and I'm convinced that together we can achieve the perfect remake!Posted by: Peter F on 2016-10-03 10:40:35